Riots, protests planned by Dems prior to Election?

Ziggy said:

First I just went looking for the symptoms, why am I feeling this way?
Ranged from Lyme disease from a tic to ultimately long-covid.
Lyme disease there is a rashing, I have no rashes.
I found some testimonies of people talking and acting the same way I am to a T, and it's inflammation caused by the covid virus, not the vax. I didn't get the vax. But I did get covid and it stopped everything in it's tracks for 3 weeks I had a hard time getting out of bed.

Over the past couple years I've mentioned on here random swellings out of the blue. My knee would blow up and I couldn't use it for 6 weeks then it would just go away. A couple weeks later my ankle, same come and go, no reason.
About 3 months ago i got hit in the back of the neck, lot of swelling, the swelling is gone and it took half my brain with it.

Lightheaded, like equilibrium is off, focus is like being perpetually drunk and I don't drink any alcohol at all.
Just coffee.

So I looked around and still looking, and just this morning I come across this and I haven't watched it yet. Came out about 11 months ago. A round table called Invisible Illness: Leading the way on Long Covid.
It's almost 2 hours long so I'm going to grab a coffee and my favorite chair or rest on the bed and listen.
I might learn something.

I still have to get dad up and get him his breakfast, somedays I don't have the strength to move him with the Hoyer but he hates staying in bed and I don't want him to get bed sores. Still waiting to hear if we can get back on Hospice care. They said because dad wasn't declining and close to dying (that's a matter of opinion) that insurance said come bac when things change.
Set up Home health care, what a joke, and I'm not laughing, at all. So trying to get back on hospice waiting for the call.
If not I don't know what I'm going to do, just wing it the best we can.

You know, we're all going to die, that's a fact. God appointed it that way. The body is only good for so long and it breaks down.
I'm 61 not too far from you, but I was doing pretty good a few months ago, then boom.
I'm not afraid of dying, I just want to go peaceably and in a s little pain as possible. Lie in my sleep would be preferable. I hope the same for dad too. So far we're doing ok. He has no pain but he can't move himself at all. I have to roll him side to side and make him as comfortable as I can.
I just wish I could make myself comfortable so I can work with him a little more carefully. This weakness makes my actions have to be stronger. I have to be assertive rather than codling.

Anywhoooooo

I'm going to get him up, breakfast, grab a coffee and come back and watch this video.
God Bless us all.
Hugs

Now I know this is in the wrong thread and has nothing to do with riots and the end of the world, but it is Germain to the topic as we are under biological warfare and that in itself is a riot on the body, mind and soul.

I am just grateful that no matter how much the world attacks the physical , God has my Soul, and Jesus is the keeper of my heart.

Hugs

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Not sure if I HAD the covid or not at the time it was going around.
Yet? I definitely had SOMETHING during that time. KINDA like the flu and lasted about a week.
Didn't WANT nor get "jabbed" and DIDN'T!
Nor do I take any medications. Save for a couple "Alleve" pills for the past several months to try and keep the arthritis in my "clutch knee" )(from my career as a gravel hauler from the quarries to construction sites in the greater metropolitan Chicagoland area, as well as in the "city" itself, as well as helping in both my thumbs).
I HAVE been known to frequent the Chiropractor on more occasions then I can recall over the past 50 years.
To which I attribute to as God made these bodies pretty much "self healing."
But, it's the "WORLD" and "ITS" ways that cause by means of a "debilitating posture" that causes nerve pressure/s along the spinal cord that "blocks", or greatly reduces the communication to the brain whereas the healing effects are neither sent nor responded to properly. Causing short term as well as long term health issues.

And? You are correct! This really isn't a proper thread to be discussing our "life struggles" or "medical philosophies."

NayborBear said:

Not sure if I HAD the covid or not at the time it was going around.
Yet? I definitely had SOMETHING during that time. KINDA like the flu and lasted about a week.
Didn't WANT nor get "jabbed" and DIDN'T!
Nor do I take any medications. Save for a couple "Alleve" pills for the past several months to try and keep the arthritis in my "clutch knee" )(from my career as a gravel hauler from the quarries to construction sites in the greater metropolitan Chicagoland area, as well as in the "city" itself, as well as helping in both my thumbs).
I HAVE been known to frequent the Chiropractor on more occasions then I can recall over the past 50 years.
To which I attribute to as God made these bodies pretty much "self healing."
But, it's the "WORLD" and "ITS" ways that cause by means of a "debilitating posture" that causes nerve pressure/s along the spinal cord that "blocks", or greatly reduces the communication to the brain whereas the healing effects are neither sent nor responded to properly. Causing short term as well as long term health issues.

And? You are correct! This really isn't a proper thread to be discussing our "life struggles" or "medical philosophies."

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If you would like to discuss this more, I'm listening.
Hugs

This Thread post #76.

Debp said:

@Ronald David Bruno To the Dems and leftists, what is insane, is sane to the rest of us.

Just talking about homelessness, the Trump administration wants to give Federal money to faith based organizations working with the homeless because they get results.

Here in Los Angeles, the City organization LAHSA working with the homeless lost big money...no idea where it went. And they threw meals meant for the homeless into dumpsters. Instead Trump administration would give money to The Dreamcenter...a Christian organization that has many programs that actually work and help people.

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Speaking of homelessness.

Viral video of homeless encampment around city of Berkeley sparks safety concerns from parent

Less than an hour from me....

If we don't start voting in the right people that actually have a clue on how to get things done,
then this will be the fate of America.
It's in everyone's backyard but no one wants to fix it.
Everyone always worried about who will be President or Senator or Congressman,
It begins at the local level with your city council.

Where I live, east of Bangor, small city growing rapidly though, they want to put in new grass in the park.
The constituents are asking why? You want our taxes to help pay for more homeless parks.
How about we fix the problem and get the people help?
Just saying...

2 weeks ago:

WATCH: Hidden Camera Video Exposes Sen. Elissa Slotkin Outlining Democrats’ ‘Signature Cases’ for January Lawfare if They Win Midterms​

Instead of focusing on revenge, why don't the democrats try focusing on proposals that are aimed at helping the citizens of the US and helping the country?

Debp said:

Sure glad we have President Trump who enforced our borders.

Destructive riots for weeks in Paris by leftists and Islamists. Some riots happened in Belgium, Spain and Italy. Now heard today the riots have spread to Germany and The Netherlands.

Trouble in Poland, sounded like a possible coup attempt. Poland is about the only European country enforcing their borders...no Islamists allowed. They see the high crime rate by those migrants in the UK and Europe.

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Too bad so many made it in before we shut the door.

Just sayin
Hugs

Debp said:

Sure glad we have President Trump who enforced our borders.

Destructive riots for weeks in Paris by leftists and Islamists. Some riots happened in Belgium, Spain and Italy. Now heard today the riots have spread to Germany and The Netherlands.

Trouble in Poland, sounded like a possible coup attempt. Poland is about the only European country enforcing their borders...no Islamists allowed. They see the high crime rate by those migrants in the UK and Europe.

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And the movers in European governments that have allowed this situation to develop? Why isn't something being done about them? They need to be stripped of all authority and put in jail for allowing rampant illegal immigration and cow-towing to the Islamic radicals.

Debp said:

Just talking about homelessness, the Trump administration wants to give Federal money to faith based organizations working with the homeless because they get results.

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Interesting comment.

Many many years ago, prior to Social Security, the church took care of the needy. We have the separation of church and state but all I ever hear about is how we need to keep the church out of the state’s business. But it seems to me that it’s the state that got involved in the church’s business in the first place. The Social Security Act was implemented in 1935 because of the Great Depression and what was perceived as inadequacies of private charities and community organizations.

What are your thoughts? If we could get back to a system where the church only took care of the poor and those in need and our taxes were lower based on that system, would that be beneficial?

Debp said:

Honestly I don't know. I don't know how much some churches could contribute to helping the many poor and homeless.

There are some Christian organizations doing wonderful work with the poor and homeless though.

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Thanks for your response. I think I should’ve been a little clearer in my post. I’m not trying to argue whether we should or shouldn’t have Social Security, but rather if we would be better off, Biblically speaking, if we didn’t have it during the end times.

Matthew 25:35-40 is often cited when our duty to help the poor is discussed, but everyone who pays taxes also pays for our social programs. The goats of Matthew 25 who pay their taxes also pay for food for the hungry, water for those who are thirsty, housing for the homeless, and clothes for the naked.

Matthew 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

Literally the goats did do it to the least of these through paying taxes that they knew would help the needy. If we didn’t have government-sponsored social programs (as it was prior to 1935 in the US) then Matthew 25:35-40 would make more sense, at least literally speaking.

I guess we could say that the social programs are inadvertently creating the perception that a person can be saved through paying taxes, which may fit with some end-time views of a one-world evil government. Anyway, if you have any other thoughts about this I would be interested in reading them.

Debp said:

I follow the UK closely. Patriots and most Christians are desperately wanting a change of government because the Labour government caters to Islam. And persecutes patriots and even arrests Christian street preachers if Muslims complain. Patriots sit in jail for practically nothing... it's lawfare.

However they don't have elections for prime minister until 2029 I think. But at this rate, one wonders if there will be civil war. Of course the government already let huge numbers of illegal, violent Muslims in...so they will fight for the liberal government that let them in and gives them everything for free.

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Civil war apparently is what those Leftist leaders want. But not just in the UK. It's starting here in the U.S. too but to a lesser degree. All the European governments are pretty much now Socialist types. Georgetown history professor Carroll Quigley, himself an "Insider", spilled the beans about the "establishment" elites in control of our U.S. government. He said they often work with Communism, and have no problem doing so.

In the 1950's Congressional investigation of tax-exempt foundations by congressman Clyde Reese, it was discovered that foundations like the Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Ford foundations were supporting Communist activities in the U.S. This Leftist-Communist movement has been going on a long time. Most of the American people have been willingly blind to it.

The "establishment" elites and the Communists both want a "one world government." That's why they work together.

grafted branch said:

Thanks for your response. I think I should’ve been a little clearer in my post. I’m not trying to argue whether we should or shouldn’t have Social Security, but rather if we would be better off, Biblically speaking, if we didn’t have it during the end times.

Matthew 25:35-40 is often cited when our duty to help the poor is discussed, but everyone who pays taxes also pays for our social programs. The goats of Matthew 25 who pay their taxes also pay for food for the hungry, water for those who are thirsty, housing for the homeless, and clothes for the naked.

Matthew 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

Literally the goats did do it to the least of these through paying taxes that they knew would help the needy. If we didn’t have government-sponsored social programs (as it was prior to 1935 in the US) then Matthew 25:35-40 would make more sense, at least literally speaking.

I guess we could say that the social programs are inadvertently creating the perception that a person can be saved through paying taxes, which may fit with some end-time views of a one-world evil government. Anyway, if you have any other thoughts about this I would be interested in reading them.

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I gave your post to an AI to dissect

Google AI:
the person's argument has several major theological and logical holes. While it is an inventive way to look at the text, it fundamentally misunderstands both the mechanics of modern taxation and the core message of the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.

Here is a breakdown of what is "wrong with this picture":

1. The Core Misunderstanding of Matthew 25: Intent vs. Compulsion

The most glaring error is that the "Goats" are not acting out of charity; they are complying with the law.

• The Heart Issue: In Christian theology, God judges the heart and the internal motivation, not just external, forced compliance. Paying taxes is mandatory under penalty of law (imprisonment or fines). It requires no faith, no love, and no personal sacrifice for "the least of these."

• The Elements of true charity: Biblical giving (like the actions of the Sheep) is voluntary, driven by love for Christ, and involves personal proximity or a conscious choice to sacrifice for another.

2. The Text Directly Contradicts Their Argument

The person argues that the Goats literally fed and clothed the poor through taxes. However, the text explicitly shows that the Goats themselves are completely unaware of having helped anyone.

• Look at Matthew 25:44: "They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’"

• If the Goats could use the "I paid my taxes" defense, they would have argued it right there. Instead, their question reveals a total lack of personal relationship with or awareness of the suffering around them.

3. Misunderstanding What Social Security Actually Is

The post conflates general "social programs" (like food stamps or welfare) with Social Security.

• Social Security is a social insurance program. It is funded by specific payroll taxes (FICA) where workers contribute to a system that pays out to themselves (or their survivors/disability recipients) later in life.

• It is not a wealth-redistribution system designed purely to feed the destitute "least of these." It is a government-managed retirement and disability system. Conflating it with the radical, self-sacrificial hospitality demanded in Matthew 25 is a massive category error.

4. The "Paying Taxes Saves You" Fallacy

The writer suggests that social programs might trick people into thinking they can be "saved through paying taxes."

• No major Christian denomination or theological framework teaches that paying taxes contributes to salvation. Salvation in the New Testament is universally tied to faith in Christ and the subsequent transformation of the heart.

• Furthermore, Jesus explicitly separated religious duty from civic duty when he said, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's" (Mark 12:17). The New Testament authors (like Paul in Romans 13) command Christians to pay taxes simply as a matter of submitting to governing authorities—not as a substitute for righteousness.

Summary

The person is trying to turn a passage about personal, heart-driven compassion into a commentary on macroeconomics and end-times geopolitics. If the existence of a government welfare system could successfully turn "Goats" into "Sheep," then salvation would be a matter of state policy rather than individual faith—a concept entirely foreign to the Bible.

Davidpt said:

I gave your post to an AI to dissect

Google AI:
the person's argument has several major theological and logical holes. While it is an inventive way to look at the text, it fundamentally misunderstands both the mechanics of modern taxation and the core message of the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats.

Here is a breakdown of what is "wrong with this picture":

1. The Core Misunderstanding of Matthew 25: Intent vs. Compulsion

The most glaring error is that the "Goats" are not acting out of charity; they are complying with the law.

• The Heart Issue: In Christian theology, God judges the heart and the internal motivation, not just external, forced compliance. Paying taxes is mandatory under penalty of law (imprisonment or fines). It requires no faith, no love, and no personal sacrifice for "the least of these."

• The Elements of true charity: Biblical giving (like the actions of the Sheep) is voluntary, driven by love for Christ, and involves personal proximity or a conscious choice to sacrifice for another.

2. The Text Directly Contradicts Their Argument

The person argues that the Goats literally fed and clothed the poor through taxes. However, the text explicitly shows that the Goats themselves are completely unaware of having helped anyone.

• Look at Matthew 25:44: "They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’"

• If the Goats could use the "I paid my taxes" defense, they would have argued it right there. Instead, their question reveals a total lack of personal relationship with or awareness of the suffering around them.

3. Misunderstanding What Social Security Actually Is

The post conflates general "social programs" (like food stamps or welfare) with Social Security.

• Social Security is a social insurance program. It is funded by specific payroll taxes (FICA) where workers contribute to a system that pays out to themselves (or their survivors/disability recipients) later in life.

• It is not a wealth-redistribution system designed purely to feed the destitute "least of these." It is a government-managed retirement and disability system. Conflating it with the radical, self-sacrificial hospitality demanded in Matthew 25 is a massive category error.

4. The "Paying Taxes Saves You" Fallacy

The writer suggests that social programs might trick people into thinking they can be "saved through paying taxes."

• No major Christian denomination or theological framework teaches that paying taxes contributes to salvation. Salvation in the New Testament is universally tied to faith in Christ and the subsequent transformation of the heart.

• Furthermore, Jesus explicitly separated religious duty from civic duty when he said, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's" (Mark 12:17). The New Testament authors (like Paul in Romans 13) command Christians to pay taxes simply as a matter of submitting to governing authorities—not as a substitute for righteousness.

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Well, I got a good laugh out of that. I don’t think AI understood my post very well.

1. First off both the sheep and goats were completely unaware but AI wants to argue that it’s only the goats that are unaware. In Matthew 25:37-39 the sheep ask “when saw we thee an hunger …” then in Matthew 25:44 the goats say almost the exact same thing “Lord, when saw we thee an hungred …”.
2. If an unsaved person recognizes that their taxes are paying to help the poor and their heart is in complete agreement with it, it’s no different than a saved person giving out of their heart to their church in order to help the poor. Sure taxes aren’t voluntary and giving to the church is voluntary but that difference has no bearing on the condition of the heart. AI makes the assumption that nobody’s heart is in agreement with the government helping the poor.
3. I’m not misunderstanding Social Security. It was implemented in 1935 and all the other government social programs have followed, that was my point. That’s when socialism started to replace the business of the church, the separation of church and state was violated by the state getting involved in the business of the church. If I were to change my post to reflect the actual names of the government programs that supply the help that Matthew 25 is talking about, it wouldn’t change the point I was making. I’m not sure why AI would call that out.
4. AI completely missed my point about what might happen in the future and what some people, especially Premils teach about an Antichrist and one world government. Look at a verse such as Daniel 7:25 … and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws … Wouldn’t linking Matthew 25:35-40 to paying taxes qualify as changing times and laws?

5. Davidpt said:

   Summary
   
   The person is trying to turn a passage about personal, heart-driven compassion into a commentary on macroeconomics and end-times geopolitics. If the existence of a government welfare system could successfully turn "Goats" into "Sheep," then salvation would be a matter of state policy rather than individual faith—a concept entirely foreign to the Bible.

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   I wasn’t trying to argue that goats can turn into sheep by paying taxes, nor do I think any church is currently preaching that. I only presented the opinion that an unsaved person who is trying to deceive others might be able to do so using that argument, and tied it to a one world government that many folks think will happen at some point in the future. AI seems to assume that no further deception will ever take place in the future, so apparently it’s making the Preterist argument.

grafted branch said:

Well, I got a good laugh out of that. I don’t think AI understood my post very well.

1. First off both the sheep and goats were completely unaware but AI wants to argue that it’s only the goats that are unaware. In Matthew 25:37-39 the sheep ask “when saw we thee an hunger …” then in Matthew 25:44 the goats say almost the exact same thing “Lord, when saw we thee an hungred …”.
2. If an unsaved person recognizes that their taxes are paying to help the poor and their heart is in complete agreement with it, it’s no different than a saved person giving out of their heart to their church in order to help the poor. Sure taxes aren’t voluntary and giving to the church is voluntary but that difference has no bearing on the condition of the heart. AI makes the assumption that nobody’s heart is in agreement with the government helping the poor.
3. I’m not misunderstanding Social Security. It was implemented in 1935 and all the other government social programs have followed, that was my point. That’s when socialism started to replace the business of the church, the separation of church and state was violated by the state getting involved in the business of the church. If I were to change my post to reflect the actual names of the government programs that supply the help that Matthew 25 is talking about, it wouldn’t change the point I was making. I’m not sure why AI would call that out.
4. AI completely missed my point about what might happen in the future and what some people, especially Premils teach about an Antichrist and one world government. Look at a verse such as Daniel 7:25 … and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws … Wouldn’t linking Matthew 25:35-40 to paying taxes qualify as changing times and laws?
5. 
   I wasn’t trying to argue that goats can turn into sheep by paying taxes, nor do I think any church is currently preaching that. I only presented the opinion that an unsaved person who is trying to deceive others might be able to do so using that argument, and tied it to a one world government that many folks think will happen at some point in the future. AI seems to assume that no further deception will ever take place in the future, so apparently it’s making the Preterist argument.

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Lot of weight in your response. One must remember about AI, "garbage in, garbage out", as it is programmed software, and has NO heart to discern things of the heart, nor especially things of The Spirit. It will never... be able to replace the things taught by The Holy Spirit from God. Only those duped by a false belief that modern science can achieve anything would fall for such faith in AI that is programmed to try and replace what GOD says.

SavedInHim said:

If people are protesting they must have their reasons. I may not agree with their methods in some cases, but they're not out there protesting for no reason. It's because of the insane policies of this president and his administration.

Dems don't need to protest to win elections. They're already winning race after race, even in districts that have been strong Trump districts. Trump-endorsed candidates are losing like crazy. I guess Dems must be sending undocumented immigrants to vote against them. Democrats have ideas that will help ordinary Americans;

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Yeah.
Just like they always have!!!

SavedInHim said:

maga and Republicans have squat. All they care about is their own power and the wealthy elite.

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Ziggy said:

First I just went looking for the symptoms, why am I feeling this way?
Ranged from Lyme disease from a tic to ultimately long-covid.
Lyme disease there is a rashing, I have no rashes.
I found some testimonies of people talking and acting the same way I am to a T, and it's inflammation caused by the covid virus, not the vax. I didn't get the vax. But I did get covid and it stopped everything in it's tracks for 3 weeks I had a hard time getting out of bed.

Over the past couple years I've mentioned on here random swellings out of the blue. My knee would blow up and I couldn't use it for 6 weeks then it would just go away. A couple weeks later my ankle, same come and go, no reason.
About 3 months ago i got hit in the back of the neck, lot of swelling, the swelling is gone and it took half my brain with it.

Lightheaded, like equilibrium is off, focus is like being perpetually drunk and I don't drink any alcohol at all.
Just coffee.

So I looked around and still looking, and just this morning I come across this and I haven't watched it yet. Came out about 11 months ago. A round table called Invisible Illness: Leading the way on Long Covid.
It's almost 2 hours long so I'm going to grab a coffee and my favorite chair or rest on the bed and listen.
I might learn something.

I still have to get dad up and get him his breakfast, somedays I don't have the strength to move him with the Hoyer but he hates staying in bed and I don't want him to get bed sores. Still waiting to hear if we can get back on Hospice care. They said because dad wasn't declining and close to dying (that's a matter of opinion) that insurance said come bac when things change.
Set up Home health care, what a joke, and I'm not laughing, at all. So trying to get back on hospice waiting for the call.
If not I don't know what I'm going to do, just wing it the best we can.

You know, we're all going to die, that's a fact. God appointed it that way. The body is only good for so long and it breaks down.
I'm 61 not too far from you, but I was doing pretty good a few months ago, then boom.
I'm not afraid of dying, I just want to go peaceably and in a s little pain as possible. Lie in my sleep would be preferable. I hope the same for dad too. So far we're doing ok. He has no pain but he can't move himself at all. I have to roll him side to side and make him as comfortable as I can.
I just wish I could make myself comfortable so I can work with him a little more carefully. This weakness makes my actions have to be stronger. I have to be assertive rather than codling.

Anywhoooooo

I'm going to get him up, breakfast, grab a coffee and come back and watch this video.
God Bless us all.
Hugs

Now I know this is in the wrong thread and has nothing to do with riots and the end of the world, but it is Germain to the topic as we are under biological warfare and that in itself is a riot on the body, mind and soul.

I am just grateful that no matter how much the world attacks the physical , God has my Soul, and Jesus is the keeper of my heart.

Hugs

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Try hidden inflamation somewhere or in a few places.
Something to do with food.
Don't know too much about it though.
Sorry and I hope you get better.