Hi Swampfox long time no see! Anyway if you say there are no contradictions in the Bible then try this on for size;(and don't erase this post if it is too much too handle) I only reveal the truth and cults keep people from the truth.2 Kings 8:26 says "Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign..." 2 Chronicles 22:2 says "Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign..." 2 Samuel 6:23 says "Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death" 2 Samuel 21:8 says "But the king took...the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul" 2 Samuel 8:3-4 says "David smote also Hadadezer...and took from him...seven hundred horsemen..." 1 Chronicles 18:3-4 says "David smote Hadarezer...and took from him...seven thousand horsemen..." 1 Kings 4:26 says "And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots..." 2 Chronicles 9:25 says "And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots..." 2 Kings 25:8 says "And in the fifth month, on the seventh day of the month...Nebuzaradan...came...unto Jerusalem" Jeremiah 52:12 says "...in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month...came Nebuzaradan...into Jerusalem" 1 Samuel 31:4-6 says "...Saul took a sword and fell upon it. And when his armourbearer saw that Saul was dead and...died with him. So Saul died..." 2 Samuel 21:12 says "...the Philistines had slain Saul in Gilboa." Gen 2:17 says "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day thou eastest thereof thou shalt surely die [note: it doesn't say 'spiritual' death] Gen 5:5 says "And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died." Matt 1:16 says, "And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus..." Luke 3:23 says "And Jesus...the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli" James 1:13 says "..for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." Gen 22:1 says "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham..." Gen 6:20 says "Of fowls after their kind and of cattle [etc.]...two of every sort shall come unto thee..." Gen 7:2,3 says "Of every clean beast thou shall take to thee by sevens...Of fowls also of the air by sevens..." Luke23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost." John 19:30 "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost." Gen 32:30 states "...for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." John 1:18 states, "No man hath seen God at any time..." Factual Errors 1Kings 7:23 "He made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about." Circumference = Pi() x Diameter, which means the line would have to have been over 31 cubits. In order for this to be rounding, it would have had to overstate the amount to ensure that the line did "compass it round about." Lev 11:20-21: "All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you." Fowl do not go upon all four. Lev 11:6: "And the hare, because he cheweth the cud..." Hare do not chew the cud. Deut 14:7: " "...as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof." For the hare this is wrong on both counts: Hare don’t chew the cud and they do divide the "hoof." Jonah 1:17 says, "...Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights" Matt 12:40 says "...Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly..." whales and fish are not related Matt 13:31-32: " "the kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed which…is the least of all seeds, but when it is grown is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree." There are 2 significant errors here: first, there are many smaller seeds, like the orchid seed; and second, mustard plants don't grow into trees. Matt 4:8: " Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them." Unless the world is flat, altitude simply will not help you see all the kingdoms of the earth.
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Hi Swampfox long time no see! Anyway if you say there are no contradictions in the Bible then try this on for size;(and don't erase this post if it is too much too handle) I only reveal the truth and cults keep people from the truth.
There are no contradictions. I don't erase posts around here if you have noticed, if you think I'd cut and run from anything I would have done it a long time ago. I'm going to take the time to respond to each and every one of your "contradictions" listed above, so this may take some time. However, I will say that I do not appreciate the last sentence of this paragraph. I have to question the true motives of someone who comes around throwing out the term "cult" to describe those who read and listen to the Bible...
2 Kings 8:26 says "Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign..." 2 Chronicles 22:2 says "Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign..."
Ahaziah was 22 years old when he assumed the throne as 2 Kings states. If you'll notice the last bit of 2 Chronicles 22:2, it makes the distinction that Ahaziah was related to Omri through his mother. The "forty and two" years figure given in 2 Chronicles is done so because he is now in the 42nd year reign (year 790) of that "house" if you will. His father, Jehoram, was thirty-two when he began his own reign with Jehoshaphat two years before his death (2 Kings 8:16) which was in 796. We know from this that Jehoram was born in 828 and Ahaziah would have been born in 812. His father would have been 16 and his mother 20 at the time. So, we have 20 years of his mother + his 22 year life which = 42.
2 Samuel 6:23 says "Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death" 2 Samuel 21:8 says "But the king took...the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul
In all likelyhood this is a translation issue. Many other codices read the name Merab which agrees with the statement made in 1 Samuel 18:9 that she was a daughter of Saul.
2 Samuel 8:3-4 says "David smote also Hadadezer...and took from him...seven hundred horsemen..." 1 Chronicles 18:3-4 says "David smote Hadarezer...and took from him...seven thousand horsemen..."
Simple mistake here; the translators were human and the Hebrew for numbers can be mistaken - particularly 7 and 700. Wish I had a way to show this, but some research on your own should yield this conclusion. I can't do it all for you.
1 Kings 4:26 says "And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots..." 2 Chronicles 9:25 says "And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots..."
Again, pretty much the same as the above. Your own research into it will help. I'll cover the rest later.
There are no contradictions. I don't erase posts around here if you have noticed, if you think I'd cut and run from anything I would have done it a long time ago. I'm going to take the time to respond to each and every one of your "contradictions" listed above, so this may take some time. However, I will say that I do not appreciate the last sentence of this paragraph. I have to question the true motives of someone who comes around throwing out the term "cult" to describe those who read and listen to the Bible...
2 Kings 8:26 says "Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign..." 2 Chronicles 22:2 says "Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign..."
Ahaziah was 22 years old when he assumed the throne as 2 Kings states. If you'll notice the last bit of 2 Chronicles 22:2, it makes the distinction that Ahaziah was related to Omri through his mother. The "forty and two" years figure given in 2 Chronicles is done so because he is now in the 42nd year reign (year 790) of that "house" if you will. His father, Jehoram, was thirty-two when he began his own reign with Jehoshaphat two years before his death (2 Kings 8:16) which was in 796. We know from this that Jehoram was born in 828 and Ahaziah would have been born in 812. His father would have been 16 and his mother 20 at the time. So, we have 20 years of his mother + his 22 year life which = 42.
2 Samuel 6:23 says "Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death" 2 Samuel 21:8 says "But the king took...the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul
In all likelyhood this is a translation issue. Many other codices read the name Merab which agrees with the statement made in 1 Samuel 18:9 that she was a daughter of Saul.
2 Samuel 8:3-4 says "David smote also Hadadezer...and took from him...seven hundred horsemen..." 1 Chronicles 18:3-4 says "David smote Hadarezer...and took from him...seven thousand horsemen..."
Simple mistake here; the translators were human and the Hebrew for numbers can be mistaken - particularly 7 and 700. Wish I had a way to show this, but some research on your own should yield this conclusion. I can't do it all for you.
1 Kings 4:26 says "And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots..." 2 Chronicles 9:25 says "And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots..."
Again, pretty much the same as the above. Your own research into it will help. I'll cover the rest later.
Thanks for the response Swampfox. You and your site are definitely not cultic. I am a Bible believing Christian and always will be a Christian. A few flaws in the Bible don't matter to me at all. I see it like this. If two reporters from two different newspapers report on the same event there is a good chance that they will report it slightly differently. There may even be a contradiction or two. But, the FACT does not change that the event really happened. That is how I see the Bible. Written by many men, rewritten many times and translated many times there will most likely be a discrepency here or there but that does not change the fact that the events really happened. As a matter a fact, archeology keeps proving over and over that the Bible is accurate. I believe the spiritual message in the Bible is accurate enough for Gods approval. Some people say God created light on the fisrt day and the sun on the forth day. What on earth was the light he created on the first day, not the sun? To me the important thing in the Creation story is that God created it. God did not create evil, it was a result of mans freewill. The fall of man made immortal man mere mortals. Jesus came down and took our burden on him and broke down the barrier to eternal life. An open heart to Jesus and His message will give us eternal life. Christ will return again. The wicked go to hell. The redeemed go to Heaven. To me that is the important message of the Bible and a few flaws of contradictions will never change the fact. Salvation and Godly living is accurate enough in the Bible that God approved it as trustworthy.
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