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Now there are many Christians who have a hard time to understand the truth about clean and unclean foods. In the Bible, God tells us not to eat things like Pork, crab, cuttlefish, shellfish, lobster, etc. God had to put these laws in the Bible so that we could know certain creatures are harmful to eat. We see it in Leviticus 11..
Leviticus 11:1-23
1 And the Lord spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.
3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
4 Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
5 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.
13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
20 All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.
21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
22 Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
23 But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.

Now some Christians think that Mark 7:19 changes this and claim it says you can eat anything you want. Well lets look at it.
Mark 7:19
19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

Doesnt really say there is any changes to the clean or unclean foods that are set out, so where did this idea come in. Well lets look through a couple of the new versions of the Bible, Interestingly other versions had this in brackets, that “Jesus declared all foods clean”.

New International Version “For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
English Standard Version “since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.)
New American Standard Bible “because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach, and is eliminated?” (Thus He declared all foods clean.)

So why did all the old versions of the Bible not contain this portion, and why do the new versions carry it within brackets? The Original Greek Manuscripts do not carry “In saying this, Jesus declared” which is in Mark 7:19.

This had been a later addition by some of the translators, its not what the Bible had, just a decision by the translators of the modern versions to add “(In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean)” was valid. Well lets look at the context of the chapter in Mark leading up to verse 19 and see if it is about eating any food, or eating food according to the traditions of man. We begin with Mark 7:1-4..
Mark 7:1-5
1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?

We see here that the story begins with the Pharisees accusing some of Jesus disciples of not washing their hands before eating bread according to the “tradition of the elders”. Now the Pharisees had their own laws they had made up and told others they had to follow in addition to God’s Law, and this is what Christ addresses in the verses that proceed.
Mark 7:6-9
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

He starts by quoting Isaiah 29:13, showing their hypocrisy saying, that they honor God with their mouth but their hearts are far from Him as we see in 'honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.' And that in vain they worship Him, teaching commandments of men for 'doctrine'. Jesus goes further on their mistake showing that they are laying aside God’s Commandments and are holding onto the 'traditions of men', which include their ideas of 'washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.' He says that they reject 'reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.' And He tells them they make God’s Word of no effect by their traditions, 'Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.'

So what is the context, food or man made traditions? Lets go and give even more context starting at verse 13..
Mark 7:13-15
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
 
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So what is Christ talking about, well we clearly see what it is in verse 13, and then He makes sure they are listening in verse 14 to the lesson about to be given. In verse 15 He declares, 'There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.' Is He saying that we can now eat whatever we want? No, He says that nothing that goes into a person from the outside can make him unclean. It is what comes out of a person that makes a person unclean.

Then in verse 17, the disciples ask what He meant as even they had questions..
Mark 7:17
17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.

Now we come to the verses in question and Christ actually begins the answer in verse 18
Mark 7:18
18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

He answers the disciples saying, whatever enters into man cannot make him unclean, but only through sin that proceed from the inside of man. It is clear that He says that man is defiled by the sin which is inside. And you can see how He finishes with the same..
Mark 7:19-23
19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

Now is He saying that God’s direction on clean and unclean foods are of no use because whatever we eat is purged out of the stomach. Of course not, as we can see the whole context He was talking of was the 'tradition of man' the Pharisees had added, and declaring them hypocrites for making what God had given on clean and unclean, as they had the Law, Void. Putting in their own 'traditions'.
 
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So what is Christ talking about, well we clearly see what it is in verse 13, and then He makes sure they are listening in verse 14 to the lesson about to be given. In verse 15 He declares, 'There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.' Is He saying that we can now eat whatever we want? No, He says that nothing that goes into a person from the outside can make him unclean. It is what comes out of a person that makes a person unclean.

Then in verse 17, the disciples ask what He meant as even they had questions..
Mark 7:17
17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.

Now we come to the verses in question and Christ actually begins the answer in verse 18
Mark 7:18
18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

He answers the disciples saying, whatever enters into man cannot make him unclean, but only through sin that proceed from the inside of man. It is clear that He says that man is defiled by the sin which is inside. And you can see how He finishes with the same..
Mark 7:19-23
19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

Now is He saying that God’s direction on clean and unclean foods are of no use because whatever we eat is purged out of the stomach. Of course not, as we can see the whole context He was talking of was the 'tradition of man' the Pharisees had added, and declaring them hypocrites for making what God had given on clean and unclean, as they had the Law, Void. Putting in their own 'traditions'.
Just to clarify: In the Greek, Mark 7:19 ends with:

καθαρίζον πάντα τὰ βρώματα

Here's the definition of "kathrizon" (participle form of "katharos", Strongs G2511):
  1. to make clean, cleanse
  2. to pronounce clean in a levitical sense
So, we have:

καθαρίζον πάντα τὰ βρώματα
(Making clean all foods); or
(Pronouncing clean all foods)

I'll let the reader decide how best to translate it. Probably just as a simple parenthetical remark by Mark without the fluff added by NIV et.al. However, as you noted, contextually that puts Mark himself in the position of doing exactly what Jesus is criticizing - changing the commandment of God. Unless Jesus really did have the authority to change the commandment...
 
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Did Christ declare all foods clean?

No.

The New Covenant says it a little differently....

1 Timothy 4:4,5
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Romans 14:2
For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

Let's not claim everyone is required by God to follow your conscience
concerning what they eat or don't eat.... as this would be false doctrine.
 
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The New Covenant says it a little differently....

1 Timothy 4:4
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

Romans 14:2

For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

Let's not claim everyone is required by God to follow your conscience
concerning what they eat or don't eat.... as this would be false doctrine.

God did not DECLARE the foods CLEAN…
Which WOULD (IF SO, as you claim), would make God a Liar having Declared some foods are NOT CLEAN.

The Lord “revealed” a SPECIFIC CAVEAT….
….you quote it, but ignored it…

nothing to be refused, IF ( “the CAVEAT”) be received with thanksgiving:

The Lord revealed….one can receive and eat ANY FOOD…..”IF”…..they ARE THANKFUL unto the Lord, for the Food!!

ON the flip side….”IF” one receives and eats food GOD DECLARED “UNCLEAN”….it is still UNCLEAN, if the individual IS NOT “THANKFUL” unto the Lord FOR that food!

Once Again…you reveal your lack of Understanding….and desperately try to blame me for YOUR short comings.

Sweep your own porch First.
 
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nothing to be refused, IF ( “the CAVEAT”) be received with thanksgiving:

You missed verse 5 homie...

1 Timothy 4:4,5
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Did you notice the part where our food is sanctified... made clean... thru prayer and thanksgiving???

Let me know if you need further help with this. The third graders get it so hopefully this is
clear enough for the adults to be able to grasp this deep revelation from God's holy writ.thumbsup2.gif


….and desperately try to blame me for YOUR short comings.

Your shortcoming are so abundant... even AI can't keep up!
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You missed verse 5 homie...

Not your “homie”.
Missed “nothing”.
Can’t understand FOR YOU the Express meaning of “IF”….”THEN”.
You trying to DEBATE “how” to express thankfulness….was never in question.
Communication via PRAYER to God, is not a mystery.

God Does not Change as you IMPLIED…what WAS declared unclean is now clean.

No. What WAS declared unclean IS STILL unclean.
“IF” an unclean thing IS….received pursuant to an individuals “IF” “EXPRESSLY receiving the thing IN THANKFULNESS unto the Lord”….
(Not HOW….but WHAT….the THANKING.!)
“THEN” shall the Lord Sanctify “THAT thing”…(Not ALL things….THAT particular things”.)

As I already said….there is a caveat…
‘IF’…. A person completes the ‘IF”
“THEN”…..The Lord establishes the “THEN”

You pretending you are revealing something new of HOW….is not news, nor acknowledging the WHY….of IF…the person is THANKFUL….is WHY the Lord responds.

You wandering about off point, pretending you are winning some pseudo debate simply reveals your inability to Understand …
No, God did not Lie.
No, God did not Change everything Unclean to clean.
Yes, the “IF” thankfulness “IS” paramount…BEFORE the “THEN” of the Lords’ sanctification.

And YET again, you give another quote of Scripture…
Again highlighting the Lord’s “THEN”…while you have now twice, IGNORED the CAVEAT…of “IF” a man establishes “his part” of being THANKFUL, which MUST preceded, the Lord’s “THEN” response!

1 Timothy 4:4,5
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Did you notice the part where our food is sanctified... made clean... thru prayer and thanksgiving???

Did you NOT NOTICE….”IF” IS the Caveat?

Let me know if you need further help with this. The third graders get it so hopefully this is
clear enough for the adults to be able to grasp this deep revelation from God's holy writ.View attachment 42564

LOL…”IF” I required a 3rd grade lesson in Scripture I would challenge your competency to teach on a 3rd grade level.

Obviously you did not notice, I neither asked nor find your elementary understanding of anything new or wise.

Your shortcoming are so abundant... even AI can't keep up!
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How modernly TYPICAL… Back-patting yourself FOR being skilled in misunderstanding.

Not impressed.
 

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Not impressed.

Those that don't accept the whole counsel of God are always dissatisfied and never can find peace.

You do what you want homie half time, but I'll walk in God's promises and enjoy my food and drink blessed of the Lord! agree.gif
 

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Just to clarify: In the Greek, Mark 7:19 ends with:

καθαρίζον πάντα τὰ βρώματα

Here's the definition of "kathrizon" (participle form of "katharos", Strongs G2511):
  1. to make clean, cleanse
  2. to pronounce clean in a levitical sense
So, we have:

καθαρίζον πάντα τὰ βρώματα
(Making clean all foods); or
(Pronouncing clean all foods)

I'll let the reader decide how best to translate it. Probably just as a simple parenthetical remark by Mark without the fluff added by NIV et.al. However, as you noted, contextually that puts Mark himself in the position of doing exactly what Jesus is criticizing - changing the commandment of God. Unless Jesus really did have the authority to change the commandment...
This is the correct understanding. Like you said, katharizon, like our catharsis, something healing, purifying, not expulsion.

"Making all foods clean."

"Don't call unclean what I have cleansed."

Much love!
 
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Those that don't accept the whole counsel of God are always dissatisfied and never can find peace.

You do what you want homie half time, but I'll walk in God's promises and enjoy my food and drink blessed of the Lord! View attachment 42606

You sound more and more like a Pharisee with a touch of gutter slang…Back-patting yourself while wagging your tongue against others…

Luke 18:
[11] The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
[12] I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
[13] And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

The Lords retort is quite appropriate and sufficiently applicable to you.

[14] I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
 

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Those that don't accept the whole counsel of God are always dissatisfied and never can find peace.

You do what you want homie half time, but I'll walk in God's promises and enjoy my food and drink blessed of the Lord! View attachment 42606

Winning souls and edifying the saints on CyB since 2023!

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Now there are many Christians who have a hard time to understand the truth about clean and unclean foods. In the Bible, God tells us not to eat things like Pork, crab, cuttlefish, shellfish, lobster, etc. God had to put these laws in the Bible so that we could know certain creatures are harmful to eat. We see it in Leviticus 11..
Leviticus 11:1-23
1 And the Lord spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.
3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
4 Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
5 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.
13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15 Every raven after his kind;
16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
20 All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.
21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
22 Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
23 But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.

Now some Christians think that Mark 7:19 changes this and claim it says you can eat anything you want. Well lets look at it.
Mark 7:19
19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

Doesnt really say there is any changes to the clean or unclean foods that are set out, so where did this idea come in. Well lets look through a couple of the new versions of the Bible, Interestingly other versions had this in brackets, that “Jesus declared all foods clean”.

New International Version “For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
English Standard Version “since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.)
New American Standard Bible “because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach, and is eliminated?” (Thus He declared all foods clean.)

So why did all the old versions of the Bible not contain this portion, and why do the new versions carry it within brackets? The Original Greek Manuscripts do not carry “In saying this, Jesus declared” which is in Mark 7:19.

This had been a later addition by some of the translators, its not what the Bible had, just a decision by the translators of the modern versions to add “(In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean)” was valid. Well lets look at the context of the chapter in Mark leading up to verse 19 and see if it is about eating any food, or eating food according to the traditions of man. We begin with Mark 7:1-4..
Mark 7:1-5
1 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
2 And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
3 For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
4 And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?

We see here that the story begins with the Pharisees accusing some of Jesus disciples of not washing their hands before eating bread according to the “tradition of the elders”. Now the Pharisees had their own laws they had made up and told others they had to follow in addition to God’s Law, and this is what Christ addresses in the verses that proceed.
Mark 7:6-9
6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

He starts by quoting Isaiah 29:13, showing their hypocrisy saying, that they honor God with their mouth but their hearts are far from Him as we see in 'honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.' And that in vain they worship Him, teaching commandments of men for 'doctrine'. Jesus goes further on their mistake showing that they are laying aside God’s Commandments and are holding onto the 'traditions of men', which include their ideas of 'washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.' He says that they reject 'reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.' And He tells them they make God’s Word of no effect by their traditions, 'Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.'

So what is the context, food or man made traditions? Lets go and give even more context starting at verse 13..
Mark 7:13-15
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
14 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
So, right before god gave these laws, these foods were okay for Israel to eat? There is no prohibition of what to eat after Noah left the flood (except blood). So you are saying that when Moses came down from the mountain these foods immediately became unclean or as you imply- unhealthy.

Genesis 9

King James Version

9 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Romans 14

King James Version

14 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

If you wish to follow the Mosaic dietary laws, thart is your privilege- but stop judging others who don't.
 

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So, right before god gave these laws, these foods were okay for Israel to eat? There is no prohibition of what to eat after Noah left the flood (except blood). So you are saying that when Moses came down from the mountain these foods immediately became unclean or as you imply- unhealthy.

Genesis 9​

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9 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Romans 14​

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14 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

If you wish to follow the Mosaic dietary laws, thart is your privilege- but stop judging others who don't.
Noah knew the difference between clean and unclean before the flood.
 
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So, right before god gave these laws, these foods were okay for Israel to eat? There is no prohibition of what to eat after Noah left the flood (except blood). So you are saying that when Moses came down from the mountain these foods immediately became unclean or as you imply- unhealthy.

Genesis 9​

King James Version​

9 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Romans 14​

King James Version​

14 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

If you wish to follow the Mosaic dietary laws, thart is your privilege- but stop judging others who don't.

Hi, Ron! :)

It often seems that what is being exhibited by many (only the LORD knows who is whom) is not so much seeking of what the LORD designs but rather seeking that which He will excuse.

As pertains to Genesis 9:3, clean and unclean animals existed before and after the flood just as did clean and unclean herbs. Just because God said "every" does not mean that we should eat fruit that has mold on it or animals that have been designated as unclean without qualification.

All are free to cling to their traditions, as divinely-ordained religious liberty provides, but unwise actions often have terrible consequences. And God will not always protect the ignorant. He winks for a time and then calls all to repentance.

I'm afraid the constant call to stop judging is not going to make this issue go away.

Anyone who doesn't want to discuss it doesn't have to participate, do they?

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While all foods are considered clean.

Always be considerate of your neighbor. Some eat vegetables instead of meats.
 

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Some eat bugs, and some eat Soylent Green which, let's face it, is just cannibalism.


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