God's love is forgiveness

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lastsecman

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Though I have all faith and give all my money to the poor and understand all the secrets of God's Word and let my body go through fire.....and have no love, I am nothing.Knowing that God had forgiven you is knowing His love towards you.'I tell you, not seven times, but seventy times seven...'Everytime you realised your wrong and ask God to forgive you....He would! It's an eternal forgiveness!'If I had not believed of seeing people living in the land of the living, I would have fainted in my hardships...'
 

logabe

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In Matthew 18:21, 22 we read,21 Then Peter came and said to Him, Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times? 22 Jesus said to him, I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.Seventy times seven equals 490. This was not a random number. It is equal to the “seventy weeks of Daniel” (Dan. 9:24). It is also 10 Jubilees (49 x 10). The number 490 is prominent, because it is a forgiveness cycle. Every year on the Day of Atonement, God forgave the nation, covering its sin by the blood of the goat.Thus, when Jesus said to forgive “seventy times seven,” He spoke a hidden truth of judgment in Bible prophecy. God was obligated to forgive the nation 490 times—once each year on the Day of Atonement. From the beginning of Daniel's 70 weeks (458 B.C.) when Judah's Jubilee calendar was divinely reinstated, God once again forgave the nation (and the world) each year for the next 490 years. The final year fell in 33 A.D., and at this point God settled the accounts. He foreclosed on the debt, but sent Jesus to pay it in full on the Cross. Hence, He reconciled the world to Himself by paying its debt for sin.Jesus illustrated his statement about forgiving 490 times by illustrating it with a parable. He said this immediately after telling Peter to forgive 490 times, and not just seven times. In Matt. 18:23-35 we read,23 For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a certain king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves. 24 And when he had begun to settle them, there was brought to him one who owed him ten thousand talents.A “talent” of gold in those days was 131 pounds (Troy) of gold. A “talent” of silver was 117 pounds (Troy). Ten thousand “talents” of either gold or silver represented a huge debt that was impossible to repay.In the parable, the debtor appealed for grace, and the king forgave the whole debt. But the former debtor later refused to forgive the small debt that his neighbor owed him. When the king heard about it, he summoned the ex-debtor. Verses 32-35 tell us,32 Then summoning him, his lord said to him, You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you entreated me. 33 Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, even as I had mercy on you? 34 And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers [Imprisonment was called in the Roman law books, cruciatus corporis, “crucifying the flesh or body.”] until he should repay all that was owed him.Jesus then summed up the parable with a moral to the story:35 So shall My heavenly Father also do to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart.Thus, we see that this parable is not really about forgiving monetary debts, but about all transgressions that men do against us. We are to follow Jesus' example in forgiving those who trespass against us. In the Lord's Prayer as recorded in Matt. 6:12, we read, “And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.” In Luke 11:4, it reads this way:4 And forgive us our sins, for we ourselves also forgive everyone who is indebted to us.In the Bible, sin is reckoned as a debt. If a man sins against another, he is said to be indebted to him. And so Jesus' parables about monetary debts are really about the art of forgiveness. Jesus Himself, of course, was ready to lead the way in showing us the extent to which a person was to forgive, saying at the cross, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do” (Luke 23:34).Some people have been called to forgive more than others, depending upon their circumstances. Many in the early Church suffered horrible deaths at the hands of Roman torturers, gladiators, and lions. Others were burned alive and even slowly roasted over a bed of hot coals. Whatever circumstance God has put in our lives is an obstacle to being an overcomer. The obstacle is removed by the power of forgiveness and nothing else.In fact, an overcomer is one who overcomes something. Without something to overcome, how can he be an overcomer? The only way one can exercise the power of forgiveness is to have something to forgive. To have something to forgive, one must be a victim of some sort of sin. No one is called to forgive an act of kindness. In fact, in biblical law, only the victim has the right to forgive. The biblical judge cannot forgive a sin committed against someone else. He has the power only to determine how much debt is owed to the victim. The victim, then, has the right to demand all of what is owed to him, part of it, or he may forgive the entire debt. That is his right.Logabe
 

fullpana

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Man, how can anyone not believe the Word?! So many people try to come with their own "wisdom", when they don't even have Understanding. I say this to all the spiritualists, universalists, etc, etc. Their ways are so flawed. They try to gain knowledge from what was created to compliment us (nature). misguided...
 

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Man, how can anyone not believe the Word?! So many people try to come with their own "wisdom", when they don't even have Understanding. I say this to all the spiritualists, universalists, etc, etc. Their ways are so flawed. They try to gain knowledge from what was created to compliment us (nature). misguided...
Religions / denomations did that for them. They should know better that God is the only One that giveth wisdom. No men can do that.For this saying, God and religion / denominations does not co-exist.Religion is man's attempt to reach God. (Isaiah 55:8-9) Reality is God's way to reach sinners. (John 14:6)
 

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Dude, i've been saying that to people, our belief in God is not a religion, it's Truth, it's the WAY! Now I'll forever memorize Isaiah 55:8-9. People make up such absurd "realities" in their misguided heads!
 

Jordan

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Dude, i've been saying that to people, our belief in God is not a religion, it's Truth, it's the WAY! Now I'll forever memorize Isaiah 55:8-9. People make up such absurd "realities" in their misguided heads!
True, but remember that the bible on the SURFACE of the texts makes it look like a fantasy book, but in reality, His Words are forever a reality if we let God interpret His Words for us without our preconceived ideas of men for us.That's because my minds likes to think of a fantasy world.
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God's love is indeed amazing.... he casts our sins as far as the east is from the west and remembers them no more!! Christ's sacrifice on the cross has the power to remove the guilty stain of my sins.... ALL of my sins... and I will praise Him forever for this. I am so undeserving of such love, of such forgiveness, of such mercy, of such grace... I could never repay this debt of love were I to live a hundred thousand lifetimes.Jordan, I was wondering, how does God interpret His words for you? Does He whisper the correct interpretations in your ear? How does this happen for you, exactly? What do you mean by "God interpret His Words for us" ....? I would really like to know. Now I know the fact that I don't know means that you are so much more spiritual than I, and that you are a great spiritual person, wise and deep in the ways of God. I am sorry that I am so feeble and do not know how God interprets His word for us, and so I am asking you to teach me, so that I too can know the ways of God, namely how God interprets His word for us.blessings,Ken
 

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God's love is indeed amazing.... he casts our sins as far as the east is from the west and remembers them no more!! Christ's sacrifice on the cross has the power to remove the guilty stain of my sins.... ALL of my sins... and I will praise Him forever for this. I am so undeserving of such love, of such forgiveness, of such mercy, of such grace... I could never repay this debt of love were I to live a hundred thousand lifetimes.Jordan, I was wondering, how does God interpret His words for you? Does He whisper the correct interpretations in your ear? How does this happen for you, exactly? What do you mean by "God interpret His Words for us" ....? I would really like to know. Now I know the fact that I don't know means that you are so much more spiritual than I, and that you are a great spiritual person, wise and deep in the ways of God. I am sorry that I am so feeble and do not know how God interprets His word for us, and so I am asking you to teach me, so that I too can know the ways of God, namely how God interprets His word for us.blessings,Ken
Am I God? Can I teach you, if you insist, I'm going to have to quote scriptures.II Peter 1:20 - Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.II Timothy 2:15 - Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.John 14:23-26 - Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.