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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, I am seriously considering what you stated about the marriage analogy and that it includes the bride giving birth to children of God. Though it is not taught in the major teachings on the marriage analogy (like the parable of the Ten Virgins and Rev chapter 19), what Paul...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said: one question that will help. If “to bear fruit” written in Numbers 5 and Romans 7 is not bringing forth children unto God …then what does bringing forth fruit mean to you in the marriage analogies of Numbers 5 and Romans 7? I believe I answered that question the...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said: This I don’t agree with. You say there are no children born, how it is only a marriage analogy. An marriage analogy with fruit. Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, you also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that you should be married to another, even...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said: I think it’s more than that. It gives the birth analogy. No longer a servant, but above a servant, a dearly beloved brother. Something took place for Paul to be able to say the servant was not profitable, but is now profitable in body and Spirit. That only happens...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, Before I respond to your post, I need to make a correction on the bondwoman/freewoman. The bondwoman represents the Old Covenant of Law which is based upon man's works to follow it. The freewoman represents the New Covenant of Grace through Faith and is by promise (no...
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    How can anyone fall for the errors of Calvinism ?

    Dear Ritajanice, Thanks for posting this scripture from 2Peter. Peter teaches in the same way as Christ, Paul and the other writers do. He uses the spiritual language of Christ. This is why Paul says that he teaches in a "mystery". 1Cor 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery (a...
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    How can anyone fall for the errors of Calvinism ?

    Dear Scott Downey, There are no scriptures which teach that this physical world will be destroyed by literal fire. Christ words are "spirit" and they carry meanings that are different than what this world teaches (1Cor 2:13). The words "earth" and "heaven" are spirit words (John 6:63)...
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    How can anyone fall for the errors of Calvinism ?

    Dear Scott Downey, Since only people who are chosen for salvation will receive salvation in this age, why do you think Christ is going to forget about the people who were not chosen? After all, the Father sent Christ save the world and not just some of the world. When Christ judges the lost in...
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    How can anyone fall for the errors of Calvinism ?

    Dear Scott Downey, I read a few of your posts and agree with much of what you stated. You said: The appointment by God to their eternal life came before their belief in Christ, that is what predestination means, chosen by the Father to be given to Christ as His children, in the future. I...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, To help prevent further confusion, I thought it best to make another post on a third analogy used in scripture. It is the "maturing" analogy. This analogy can easily be confused with the birthing analogy because it uses the terms "babe", child, and perfect man". Here is...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said: Random thoughts. Bride or wife? Doesn’t there have to be a consumption for there to be children? His seed remains? Being a bride or wife is the same thing. However, the marriage analogy is separate from the birthing analogy. You should not try to combine them -...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, Thanks for your good response. You said: I’ll try again. In the above I see the married woman cares for the things of the world, how she must please her husband. ^she is those Paul spoke to in Romans 7 that by the body of Christ you are free to marry another, even Him who...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, I am a little confused by your comments, especially this one: But I thought it’s the Chaste Virgin —the unmarried woman(pronounced clean) whose husband is dead (by the body of Christ), presented to Christ, being free to be joined to another, even Him who raised from the...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, You said: This explains the below. Of submitting to please these elemental spirits who have no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh…having an appearance of wisdom(but this wisdom is from below and devilish) promoting self-made religion. I agree. The spirit of the...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear Wrangler, Your answer to VictoryinJesus has zero support from scripture. Eve has a "god complex"??? If you can't support your statements from scripture, you are violating what Paul says here: 1Cor 4:6 Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for...
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    How is the Woman saved through childbirth?

    Dear VictoryinJesus, I believe I have tried to explain this analogy to you before. I will try again. I know it is a difficult subject. To understand what Paul says in 1Tim 2:11-15, a person must have a spiritual understanding of scripture. To understand why the woman is saved during child...
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    Endures [what] to the end [of what] will be saved [from what]?

    Dear atpollard, To understand what Christ was saying concerning the "end" in Mat 24:13-14, a person must have an correct understanding of what Christ is teaching in Matthew chapter 24. All the "end-time" prophecies of Christ are teaching about the spiritual events that led an Elect person to...
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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    Dear Lizbeth, There are two destinies but don't confuse how they apply. Destiny #1: After a person sins, they become a child of the devil who is under the penalty of death. This applies to 100% of mankind. For that reason, John 3:18 says that all mankind is "condemned already". Death is the...
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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    Dear Bruce-Leiter, The verses I quoted absolutely say that Christ will save all mankind. Consider these verses again: Rom 5:18 so then as it was by one offence towards all men to condemnation, so by one righteousness towards all men for justification of life. 19 For as indeed by the...
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    The 4 Eternal Destinies of Humankind

    Dear Episkopos, You are not leading people to drink water (Holy Spirit), you are leading them to drink the mixed wine of Satan: Prov 23:29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? 30 They that tarry long at...