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Hi Cooter, Daniel 12:4 & 12:9 would disagree with an ancient fulfillment, as do the scholars, -- specifically, Montgomery, Young, Newton, Scallinger, and the "great Catholic chronographers". Perhaps the church and commentators are simply giving you their best INCORRECT answer, because they...

Hi brakelite, What happens in Chapter 2 is FIVE world empires: Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE, of which the FIFTH is "divided". 41 And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom What happens in Chapter 7 is...

To All, If Scripture (Ref. Dan. 2:45) intentionally provides for a FIFTH distinct empire which is "divided" into the 3-superpowers, then we should find confirmation of the TEN Toes per the following, as suggested to "Floyd": Current Permanent Membership to the Security Council 1. U.S. 2...

The Topic is Daniel 2:45, FIVE world empire scenario, wherein GOD presents the itemizations: Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE. If you wish to have a conversation regarding any other aspects, please feel free to start a new Topic. Otherwise please feel free to resolve what...

To All, Wow, look at all the "evidence" that Russia did not invade Ukraine. There are OTHER explanations. Maybe we should simply start with the denials of Russian troops; absent Russian military Unit shoulder patches; and all the ski masks. Despite the deceivers attempts to divert your...

If you don't want to be prepared that's your choice. But I would strongly adjure you to keep your foolish comments to yourself. You certainly are entitled to perish, but if anyone heeds your nonsense, their blood will be on your head. To all others, I would advise each individual to heed...

Hi, I would observe that the Ukrainian Parliament voted by 73% to remove Viktor Yanukovych from office. He had amassed a personal wealth of $12 B on a salary of $2k/mo.; was disavowed by his Party; and an arrest warrant was issued. It was under another veil approximate to 1972 that a Vice...

Hi brakelite, Please consider that before you attempt Daniel 7, you must solve Daniel 2, -- specifically where 2:45 DEMANDS a Five world empire scenario: Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE. And now appreciating a FIVE world empire sequence, we should consider that because...

Hi Floyd, Was on vacation for week, and now am back! :) First of all, Paul wrote in 1 Phil about those who use "religion" for their own selfish motives. Secondly, GOD provides the five-fold ministry, from which 2 Cor 14 provides those contributions to the church, but we must be constantly...

Hi shurt678, Newton make a valid point regarding Daniel 9:25: ... then you slander Newton: ...and when challenged: ... you feign humility, and excuse yourself from the discussion: This type of behavior is NOT of Christ. However, there is one who is as such. Perhaps it is he that...

To All, INTRODUCTION Daniel Chapter 2 outlines the sequence of world empires, which most would propose is as follows: 1. Head of Gold, -- Babylonian 2. Breast of Silver, -- Medo/Persian 3. Belly of Bronze, -- Grecian 4a Legs of Iron, -- Roman 4b Feet of Clay, -- Revived Roman...

Hi shturt678, Please feel free to address any discussion you might like to host. In the meantime, this Topic is reserved for the discussion of Daniel 2:45 Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE. When you are interested in addressing this passage, please feel free to join us...

Hi shturt678, Re: "We avoid also the doing violence to the language of Daniel, by taking the seven weeks and sixty two weeks for one number. Had that been Daniel’s meaning, he would have said sixty and nine weeks, and not seven weeks and sixty two weeks, a way of numbring used by no nation."...

To All, Back to the Topic, where I would propose that Daniel 2:45 Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE, depicts a FIVE world empire scenario, as evidenced today where the FIFTH empire of Clay is "divided" between the THREE Superpowers. With Best Regards, DD

Hi Purity, This will be your last advisement that this Topic addresses the Intelligent Design of Daniel 2:45 Iron, Bronze, Clay, Silver, Gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE. The next time you detract from this Topic, I will request that a Moderator intervene. Phil 1:15 15 Some indeed preach Christ from...

Hi ccfromsc, I'm sorry to hear your plight, but I personally don't expect the future to be any better for us than it was for the Jews in Europe, or the Allied prisoners of war in the Pacific. And where this can't be encouraging, it apparently is the future. Looks pretty bleak, aye? With...

Hi Michael V Pardo, It would seem that the "great falling away" will occur as Scripture outlines, but those who are founded in the Word (having no FALSE Tribulation Rapture expectation) may be sufficiently steadfast AND PREPARED to endure the near future, -- per my best understanding, 42 months...

Hi shturt678, An excellent response to LIFE in general. For Scripture says to judge the prophets: 1 Cor 14:29 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. 30 If a revelation is made to another sitting by, let the first be silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one...

Hi Floyd, If you accept Scripture and history (i.e., "divided" empire of Clay, -- between THREE Superpowers), you should arrive to Daniel 7, which details those same THREE Superpowers: Lion/Eagle, U.K./U.S. Bear, Russia Leopard (actually a "Tiger"), China ... plus find the...

Hi Floyd, Please allow the following: Dan. 2:45 the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold = 4,3,5,2,1 = FIVE Dan. 2:41 41 And as you saw the feet and toes partly of potter’s clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it...