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TSI- You make a good argument for the Roman Empire as the beast. I agree with what you stated, with exception of any reference to Islam. Chaotic-Prophet - What's your beef with me?

Truly-said, Biblescribe. I have always disagreed with the statement: " the road to hell is paved by those with good intentions." I say: " The road to hell is paved by those who secretly harbor bad intentions." After all, our intent reflects our hearts...and our souls...and our inner desire...

Warls1 - What is your point? There isn't an ethnic group, race, religious organization, country or people who are not dirtied with sin - including a majority of American Christians. So, singling-out the Jews for rebuke, or the nation of Israel, is akin to the "pot calling the kettle black"...

Christ never leaves after his Millennial Kingdom. Forever after his 2nd coming - in this generation - he will be with us always. Where did you get the idea that he was leaving after the 1000 yrs, Israelsson? BTW, are you likening Jews to Satan? If you are, ya need to be thrown off this...

"For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. " For those who don't know...because you haven't studied long enough....Christ isn't referring to the dead at all in the above verse. Indeed, he's talking about the end times media thronging to locations of reports of...

"Disgusting" is a little strong considering the level of my accusation, don't ya think, Kao? Man-o-man you're "touchy". Ya need to get thicker skin. Older folks have thick skin.

Vet - Are you sure you weren't a Marine?....Jar-Head! :huh: :blink: :wacko: Kaopectate - Yeah, right, and I walked with Jesus Christ too. Love the internet....you can appear to be anyone you want.... With the exception of the pre-trib stuff, you should have stuck with your first "hunch"...

They are correct then, about one thing, because frankly, most of Rev 12 is historical ( exceptions: verses 15,16 & 17 ). Preterists and historists regard ALMOST ALL of the prophecies historical / fulfilled.....not just one chapter....

Preterist?! You need to learn the definition of "preterist" before you label me one. Not even close....I'm a pre-millennial futurist, holding to a post-trib, mid-week, pre-wrath rapturist's POV. There are very very few true Preterists anyway. Most of those who hold to that view are partial...

Well of course....WE ALL need more study...including you. I don't know what is "fleshy" about pointing out that you don't interpret scripture, you parrot it, and call it an interpretation. I'll leave you with Eve in pain to deliver Abel and your convoluted understanding of Rev 12. :wacko...

I love it when a member posts statements that say to another member, "study, study, study",. Statements like that suggests the member who posted the statement is "the teacher", and the person they are addressing the statement to, is "the student".....Frankly, these kind of statements are the...

Vet - I did admit that I was as unmovable as you. :rolleyes: Everyone knows that Herod - puppet of the Roman Empire - attempted to rid the infant Christ when Herod initiated the "slaughter of the innocents". Rev 12:4 could be no other reference. This is just biblical history that any child...

Kaoticprofit- Obviously, you are a younger man, understandably concerned with the rise of Islamic jihad, and the emphasis placed on it in this day and age. However, Muslims' days are numbered by prophecy and God's prediction of their eradication during the coming Gog invasion of Israel. It...

The Devil IS NOT AntiChrist...

Vet & Kao - Trying to reason with either one of you is like trying to move mountains, so I'll keep this short. Rev 12 is a chronological summary of the Jewish nation, from the time of Christ, until they are invaded in our future. 1. Christ ( Christianity ) was born. Judaism gave birth to...

Kaoticprofit - How many times are you going to ask everyone to produce the proper name "Rome" from scripture? This is getting old. Besides, it's been proven to you that Rome was in power at the time of the birth of Christ, indicating that the beast who sat ready to devour the Christ child in Rev...

Mussolini was the small horn and was in power before Hitler, who is the larger horn.

To clarify my last post... Would a demon spirit looking to possess a human host spirit choose one with the foundational truths totally imprinted on his soul, or would he choose one that is lacking that foundational truth? If a demon spirit were to try and possess a spirit of God ( true...

Ever heard of possession? "Flesh men" don't ascend from the bottomless pit, the spirits that possess them do. That simple. Apollyon is NOT Satan. Satan HAS NOT yet been chained into the bottomless pit, and never has been. If the ruler of this world ( Satan - per Christ's statements ) was now...

Even Satan can't be in two places at once. Satan doesn't "play roles", he empowers the beast and the False Prophet. Speaking of the AC, Dan 8:24 - "And his power shall be mighty, BUT NOT BY HIS OWN POWER,...", And also, Dan 11:38 & 9 - " But in his estate shall he honor the god of...