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That's not in any bible and for good reason. Its a work of a heretical sect and even Rome had the good sense centuries ago to condemn the work as such. Now, we have forum members trying to rehabilitate the work because their church's doctrine changed in the intervening centuries.

The assertion is earlier in the work: 4. And, behold, an angel of the Lord stood by, saying: Anna, Anna, the Lord hath heard thy prayer, and thou shalt conceive, and shall bring forth; and thy seed shall be spoken of in all the world. And Anna said: As the Lord my God liveth, if I beget either...

Most of the ideas about Mary gave their genesis in the Protoevangelium of James. Which I would add, was condemned by a couple of Popes. But you know how that is, :smirk:. Here is part of the text were Mary remains a virgin even after she gives birth. And by virgin I don't mean not merely...

Changing the Word according to what standard? A 17th century Anglican translation for use in the Church of England? And who is the "they" you speak of?

Put the verse back into context: Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has...

Rome changes positions all the time. Capital Punishment for one. 2267 Assuming that the guilty party’s identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of...

Que the hair splitting. RCC apologists know Fiducia Supplicans is a subversive document. Francis knows this and that’s why it was released. No matter how you interpret the document it is a change from the response to the Dubia that was released in March or 2021. This is development of...

Are you sure about this assertion. What about John the Baptist? Luke 1:15 (ESV): for he will be great before the Lord. And he must not drink wine or strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb. Luke 1:41 (ESV): And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of...

Good discussion. I would back up and say that at no point does the NT refer to a Christian minister as a priest. There are only two offices described in the NT. A deacon and an elder sometimes called an overseer. Christ is our high priest and he makes intercession. Rome claims that the...

The word catholic is derived from the Greek καθολικός and simply means "universal" or a strict definition, "of the whole". If you were to substitute the word "christian" instead of catholic you would not change the meaning of the text. It was the term the ancient church fathers used to...

I have never brought up the EO. That my friend is a creed. Creeds are useful didactic tools by which to teach the basics of the faith. They are by definition not meant to be exhaustive but rather to lay out parameters in order to delineate between truth and error. They get their ultimate...

Let me be more precise. The creeds get their ultimate authority from the Scriptures. See, this is another area where Rome has changed her teaching. First, a few posts ago you were arguing that purgatory was the fire in 1 cor 3 and now you are saying that it not fire. As to the location it...

I accept the Nicene-Constantinopolitan creed along with the Apostle's Creed, the Athanasian creed and the Symbol of Chalcedon as great ecumenical creeds. I accept the creeds because they are a clear and concise exposition of what Scripture clearly teaches. Apart from Scripture the creeds have...

Wrong. The bible was completed by the end of the first century and most of the books were being circulated amoungt the various churches. Its funny though how every argument with Romish apologist always comes back to an attack on Scripture. Kinda gets the old noggin joggin eh? I the case of...

I categorically reject the idea of doctrinal development. You can prove just about anything using this framework. It was the pet hypothesis of John Henry Newman when he couldn't find Rome's distinctives in the first centuries of the church. It is also not the historical Roman apologetic...

This is called illegitimate totality transfer. Its a hermeneutical error. The word ζημιόω can mean to experience loss or it can mean to be punished. Here the word ζημιόω means to experience loss based on the context. Paul is contrasting reward with loss not reward and punishment. Also, I...

Again, this passage is the testing of works and not the testing of one’s soul. While we are alive we cannot judge the motivations of teachers and church leaders but in the Day, the judgement their works will be revealed by fire. Fire that reveals not fire that purifies. And even though one...

So lets put this back into context. But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. 2 I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready, 3 for you are still of the flesh...

Lets put this back into context: 9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your king is coming to you; righteous and having salvation is he, humble and mounted on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey. 10...

O Lord Almighty, God of Israel, the soul in anguish and the wearied spirit cry out to you. 2 Hear, O Lord, and have mercy, for we have sinned before you. 3 For you are enthroned forever, and we are perishing forever. 4 O Lord Almighty, God of Israel, hear now the prayer of those of Israel who...