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  1. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Hi Barney, I believe everyone who has lived will be resurrected. Jesus said a time was coming when all who are in the graves will hear the voice of the Son of God and come forth. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29...
  2. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    I'm not sure what your question is. I believe all who die are dead, all will be resurrected, the unrighteous will be cast into the Lake of Fire and burned up. They cease to exist.
  3. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    No, I just gave an explanation of the parable. But, we still have no evidence that dead people can feel pain.
  4. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Hi Enoch, Are you rejecting the mountains of physical evidence that shows the dead cannot feel things? I would submit that it is very much a parable. It begins just like the parable before it and the one before that starts out very similarly. In the context of the passage we find no one...
  5. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Because dead people can't feel things.
  6. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    You posted the passage in support of your claim. You should explain how it supports your claim.
  7. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Have you considered this as figurative language?
  8. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    What's the context in which the statement was made. We need the context to know what the passage is talking about.
  9. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    How so? I explained this in the other post. Did you read that post? God promised man aionios life. The Bible wasn't written in English. The question then become does aion mean eternal. Let's ask Jesus. And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it shall be forgiven to him, but...
  10. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    But that's what we have now. It is the Scribes and Pharisees who give us the Bible. It is the Translators and Theologians that Christians look to to understand the Bible. Learning Greek does help greatly. However, it wouldn't be necessary if translations weren't driven by theology. In order to...
  11. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    A soul is a living being. The word soul is only used of the dead a few times and it's someone who had recently died. A soul consists of the body and the breath of life from God. It is this breath of life from God that gives man all of his abilities. That would include feeling things. When that...
  12. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Hi Barney, I don't think so. I explained it in post 143. An age is an undetermined length of time. The length must be determined by the context. Jesus spoke of this aion and the one to come so it can't be eternity. This age or aion will end as Jesus indicates, so it can't be forever. In the...
  13. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    The problem is that the translation is wrong. If we read aion as an age it fits perfectly fine without causing the problems that using eternity does. God said through Ezekiel that the soul that sins shall die, He didn't say it would burn forever. Paul said that wages of sin is death. He didn't...
  14. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Hi Giuliano, Yes, that is one of the passages that use olam for a shorter period of time. Young's Literal Translation uses the word age. YLT Exodus 21:6 then hath his lord brought him nigh unto God, and hath brought him nigh unto the door, or unto the side-post, and his lord hath bored his...
  15. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    It's really plain to see if people will just look at it.
  16. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    Actually, that's not the case. The Hebrew word "olam" which is translated "aion: in Greek Old Testament means beyond the horizon. Here is a link to a site on ancient Hebrew. You can see that the concept doesn't mean eternity. Hebrew Word Definition: Eternity | AHRC The Greek word aion means an...
  17. Getitright

    Is the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment, biblical or not?

    No, the doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment is not Biblical. It's a Greek doctrine that is propped up by a mistranslation of the Greek word "aion". Aion does not mean eternal.
  18. Getitright

    Tongues, a SIGN to the UNBELIEVER

    It was a sign of judgment to Israel