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  1. Jodi

    True Human Being?

    Your take is interesting, but I don't align with it. Adam and Eve were ignorant so to say they should have known better I disagree with. They ate the fruit and then realized they were in error, Eve must have felt pretty stupid after she ate the fruit and it didn't make her wise as she hoped it...
  2. Jodi

    Is there a 'world of spirits'?

    Hi Helen, I can respect your decision that you are willing to make a comment such as, "I say yes, there is a kingdom of light and a kingdom of darkness. A world of good spirits and a world of evil", but that doesn't mean that you'd be into having a scriptural discussion about it. I guess I...
  3. Jodi

    Is there a 'world of spirits'?

    Hi Helen, Thanks for your response. What is it exactly that you don't buy? I could give pages of scriptural support for every point I made. Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.7 I...
  4. Jodi

    Is there a 'world of spirits'?

    Hi Helen, I use to believe in Satan and his demons, but it has been about 12 years now at least where I don't anymore. Consider below, The Hebrew word in the OT that means adversary, it's phonetic sound is SAW-TAWN. In the OT adversary SAW-TAWN, is used to describe men being adversaries...
  5. Jodi

    Is there a 'world of spirits'?

    Now hear is the truth that I don't hear many people attest to that may blow your mind, Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD? Deut 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day...
  6. Jodi

    Is there a 'world of spirits'?

    Hi Mike, I discussed this in another thread. When Jesus preached he was preaching to the spirits in men, he was not preaching unto their feet, or their arms, but to their spirit. He preached to spirits in prison, unto human spirits, men alive in jail. Those in prison repented, they were once...
  7. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Davy, YOU:You cannot only dwell on the ways the word 'soul' is used in God's Word, because it is also used to point to the 'person', or individual. It is the seat of our emotions, our person. And that is retained even after death of our flesh body. ME: First off you said that God created...
  8. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Interesting how you can give an accusation when you have absolutely NOTHING to substantiate it with. When I was at the age that most children could read, I was reading scripture and my parents where Christians. By the time I was in the 3rd grade I was talking to my peers about Isaiah 11. The...
  9. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    The "early church fathers" were pagan converts who used pagan concepts to understand scripture.
  10. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Davy, Thanks for your reply. Can you define both the soul and the spirit you say that God created together? What I know from scripture is that man became a living soul/nephesh and other living animals are also called nephesh. Nephesh is translated - soul 475, life 117, person 29, mind...
  11. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Dave, Part 3: Apply what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15 to 2 Corinthians 5, Paul doesn't contradict himself. 2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in...
  12. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Dave, Part 2: The GOSPEL being preached the hope being taught was unto the resurrection of the DEAD, not the glory of your body dying and having a so called immortal soul going to heaven. Acts 4:2 Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through Jesus the resurrection from...
  13. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Dave, You are ignoring all the scriptures I gave you that directly show you are false. Why don't you discuss those? Once you read and believe them it makes your understanding of the other passages wrong, unless you want to say scripture is full of contradictions? You aren't even...
  14. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Dave, Luke 23:41-43 41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. 42 And he said unto Jesus, "Lord, remember me when Thou comest into Thy kingdom." 43 And Jesus said unto him, "Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with Me...
  15. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Dave, what on earth are you talking about it does not exist in the NT?? Jesus IS the Son of Man/HUMAN ANTHROPOS, who sits on the right hand of God. Acts 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Acts 13: 38 Be it known unto you...
  16. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Dave, I gave you many scriptures that go directly against your belief. Now you have a list of scriptures that you think prove your belief, and I say that they don't, and the bible doesn't give contradiction. You apply pagan definitions and beliefs to words which makes you go in error. Here...
  17. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Dave, Adam means human, why we see Adam translated in the OT as "man" over 400 times. A human is a creature/soul that God had made of a certain kind of flesh compared to other creatures/souls that God had made, as birds have one kind of flesh, and fish have another.. In the NT the word...
  18. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Dave, David was a prophet, he spoke about sheol, the GRAVE, he spoke about his death being as sleep where he would one day awake. Jesus spoke of Lazarus being asleep and the people were confused and so he said bluntly that Lazarus was DEAD, then Jesus raised him to LIFE. Jesus also spoke of...
  19. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Dave, Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust...
  20. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Dave, First you have to understand that I am not a follower of Greek Philosophy, the likes of Plato that crept into Christian doctrine. The "early church fathers", were PAGAN converts who loved Plato. I believe in David and what he taught that I see Paul and others likewise teach the same...