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  1. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Davy, that is an incorrect assumption, I have not been taught nor am following any doctrine I have received, I apply scripture to scripture. The words "flesh soul" would equate to me to mean a "flesh creature", any kind of creature/soul God made that is of flesh. You are not making any...
  2. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Noah did good and many others, as they had fruits of God's Spirit working in them and most of all they had FAITH and faith is counted as righteousness. Hebrews 11 lists those of FAITH in the OT. FAITH comes according to God's work in you, His mercy and His calling which is His influence upon...
  3. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    MAN can do NOTHING of himself. Jesus gave all credit to God, he received of God's Spirit not by measure, he was called to righteousness where God held his hand and kept him, directing all his ways. Jesus said ONLY GOD IS GOOD. We are called to believe in this operation of God, the power of the...
  4. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Davy, YOU:That event of Jesus going to the spirits in prison to preach The Gospel to them was prophesied in Isaiah 42:7. ME: As said earlier, Jesus preached to the spirits of men, He preached through the Spirit of God, the same Spirit that is a witness to our spirit that we are children...
  5. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hi Davy, I'd like to respond to each of your scriptures/passages you believe are proof to your understanding. Let's start with 1 Peter 3:18-20 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but...
  6. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    My understanding from scripture is that God made MAN of the dust of the earth, NOT his body, but MAN himself, spirit/mind and all. You are either ALIVE or you are dead, you are either living or you cease from living, not there is one kind of life when you are in a flesh body and then a different...
  7. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Paul was speaking of weak mortal flesh, he said, "24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? Jesus's flesh was not allowed to see DECAY it was raised incorruptible in glory and power. Such was Paul's hope that he would be raised with the body Jesus's was...
  8. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    YES and soul and spirit are often used denoting the same meaning speaking of both according to the mind of man. From the beginning in Genesis, the bible tells me that soul means a living creature, living as God's breath is given unto it. The soul that sins shall die we are told, or you could...
  9. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    God did not create something that He hates. God created something KNOWING the END from the beginning, He created man knowing the power that His Spirit has over the clay, that He can make that clay into living in His own image. God's purpose before He created the world was to be ALL IN ALL. One...
  10. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    I appreciate you reading my post and giving a good follow up question! I think it's important to remember the LORD'S words where He said that He established the END from the beginning, and that the END that we are given is unto a New Beginning. We are also told that the LORD is a potter over...
  11. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    God made Adam out of the dust of the earth, He then gave Adam/human the breath of life making him a living SOUL/CREATURE. There is no scripture that says God made a human body and then gave him a "soul" to go with it. Soul represents living creature. The living soul/human that sins shall die...
  12. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Adam and Eve had immortal flesh, and then they received mortal flesh and thus with mortal flesh they could die. Jesus was raised with immortal flesh given to him for all eternity. Scripture tells you that Adam was made a living creature, he sinned and God brought forth mortality and Adam died...
  13. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    I guess first off I should say that I don't believe that any part of a man is immortal, as I do not believe such is biblical. I believe that when you die you return to the dust. MAN was made of the dust and MAN returns to the dust. You are alive or you are dead. So babies don't need to be...
  14. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Adam and Eve were made of the dust of the earth, they were made FLESH, FLESH and CARNAL are the SAME THING. The word in the NT for FLESH is SARX, 147 times it is translated as FLESH, 10 times unto Paul's letters it is rendered carnal. Adam and Eve were flesh and therefore they had THE MIND OF...
  15. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    My profession is in child development birth to age 5. A BABY doesn't even have enough language to speak a lie, let alone have the mental reasoning YET to create one. Now a 3-4 year old most certainly does. A 3 year old knows that he was told not to eat a cookie until after dinner and that if he...
  16. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Romans 5:19 "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous." Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Adam and Eve were created creatures, they...
  17. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    At Pentecost people received measures of the Holy Spirit where some where made apostles, others prophets, others healers, all for the purpose to bring forth more believers unto the gospel. Together they were as the body of Christ, the man who had received all measures of the Spirit. People at...
  18. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    Hmm, it doesn't seem like we actually do agree, because my understanding is that Peter himself was SATAN-AN ADVERSARY, for having in mind the things of men. He was carnally minded like that of a serpent who is deaf to the word of God and poison is under his tongue. The natural man produces...
  19. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    We were all born mortal and thus we die because of Adam's sin. Agreed that we didn't inherit Adam's sin, that statement doesn't even make sense to me. My understanding is that the law proved unto man that he of himself can do nothing, that man by himself is not capable of following even one...
  20. Jodi

    (Refuting) The (Original Sin) Doctrine!!

    We are told that IN Adam all die, Adam brought forth mortality. Adam transgressed when he did not have weak flesh, when weak flesh/mortality and the need to serve the flesh in order to live passed to all men, sin occurred according to different means, out of bondage from a weak body. The...