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But with all due respect, how many verses would you need? There are other things mentioned only once in scripture, and when this happens we are called upon to trust the word of God for the one time it is mentioned, understanding it in its Judeo-Christian context the way the Jews and early...

We would Jesus use the expression if this is the way it would have been understood by His Jewish audience?

You are referring to Luke 16:22? The expression has roots within Judaism which predate its use by our Lord: During the Second Temple period (roughly 500 BCE–70 CE), the concept of a "Bosom of Abraham" first occurs in Jewish papyri that refer to the "Bosom of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob".[9] This...

I think rebuilder would likely be answering you with this as one of his passages, and answering who the spirits He preached to is a vital part of the interpretation there, but I will let him respond for himself. Blessings, and I was just curious about your position on it. - H

Doug, if you could, please give me your exegesis of 1 Peter 3:17-22. I'm curious how you interpret it. 17 It is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil. 18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God...

I have a friend who is battling the amils right now as a matter of fact. Told me to come get in the mix if things get too bad. Told him I'll think about it, LoL. Is your testimony anywhere where I could read it by any chance? I'd like to read it.

Thank you for posting. These days there is so much - and I say this without intending to be insulting - but faithless teaching going around that less and less know what the doctrines of the early church actually were. And without it they screw up passage after passage until there's hardly a...

Synonymous terms. And both referring to the manifestation of a supernatural gift.

Ok, and so you distinguish προσεύξομαι τῷ πνεύματι in 1 Corinthians 14:15 from εὐλογῇς ἐν πνεύματι in 1 Corinthians 14:16?

I'm aware. You've already posted it. How do you interpret εὐλογῇς ἐν πνεύματι (1 Corinthians 14:16). Is he speaking of a supernatural gift or of being in fellowship?

Ok. But you are again not really answering my question. If they are commensurate, does ἐν πνεύματι ἁγίῳπροσευχόμενοι refer to charismatic experience or no?

Ok, I appreciate you posting that, as nearly all of it falls in line with what I believe as well (the supposition that he is referring to Paul and not some of the other apostles is somewhat inferred IMO, but another question for another time). If we are going with a date of the summer of 65...

Nice post. :gd

LoL. KUWN, forgive me here, but I am trying to ask you a question: You are attesting that the gifts had ceased by the time of the writing of Hebrews, so what time do you believe that was specifically? Or in other words: When do you believe Hebrews was dated?

And about the other question, you are arguing for a date of AD 70 as the date for Hebrews?

Your position in the OP is that Hebrews 2:3-4 argue that the gifts have ceased as of the writing of that letter. So you are arguing for a date of AD 70 as its date? Who do you believe the author was?

I made no error. συνεπιμαρτυροῦντος τοῦ θεοῦ = "bearing witness with God." You and the NET are supplying the word "while" when it is NOT in the Greek text. What happened to my answer to following question, or were you dodging me. This will be my second time asking you.

I agree. I used to let myself get all bent out of shape with people, but I wasn't in the Spirit either. I was in the flesh, insisting everyone agree with me, LoL. I've since come to the realization that it's no way to lead a happy life if you intend on being an active member of a Christian...

I don't mind discussing Cessationist positions. At least we're discussing scripture together. But slandering and insulting people is not listed in the fruit of the Spirit.

This post strikes me as tremendously condescending, KUWN. There are numerous people on this forum who have experienced and walked in supernatural gifts, and we are not all operating under mental delusions, or lying just to get a thrill out of it. You weaken your position when you yourself...