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Note to all... I do not know if YHWH exists or not? I have no clue. All I'm saying here, is there exists specific passages, which look to be suspect. I'm here to investigate those passages. Please take no offense. I was under the assumption the 'apologetics' arena is where such questions...

May I ask of your take here? If you are a single virgin, and are raped, coerced, manipulated, seduces, or other; here are the options available - (from the Bible): 1. The male pays the father and also marries the female. Under marriage, the female submits to the male. 2. The male pays the...

So long as you perpetually re-read the Verses you like, and perpetually skip the ones for which you don't :)

I've read all parts. Can you please acknowledge what MY OP actually says, as well as post #32? If you are a single virgin, and are raped, coerced, manipulated, seduces, or other; here are the options available - (from the Bible): 1. The male pays the father and also marries the female. Under...

You seem to have a real axe to grind, with "homosexuality"? Maybe we can devote some time to this topic, since you clearly do not want to truly engage the topic I posted here. Is who you are physically attracted to always a choice? When did you decide to become heterosexual?

Maybe you should buy a Lotto ticket? You seem to know me so well :) The Bible says many things I would agree with... However, in this particular case, the Bible looks to handle this particular criteria questionably. You admit this, by even insinuating what you guys have here, in this...

Thus, according to you, it is 'good' to instruct that 'punishment' for the rape of a single virgin is for the male to pay and marry her, or. just pay and walk away?

"Truth' sometimes does not meet your own personal satisfaction or expectations. I have studied this direct topic, quite extensively. If you care not to explore what I stated in post #32, then you look to be deliberately ignoring my position; regardless of my background. Which then deems you...

If the Verses eluded "two consenting adults', then I never would have posted this thread ;) Please re-read the Verses: "28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married [and rapes her] and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must...

Haha. If she is a single virgin, he is not to be put to death. He is either 1) told pay the father <and> marry her, (or) 2) just pay the father. If the law or the father opts for the later, he goes free after payment. If the law or the father opts for option 1, the victim remains subservient...

Are you going to address post #32? You are trying to deflect, using isolated cases of "child rape".

If so, what was the conclusion in that thread? The same as this one, where a couple of Christians do not acknowledge my points?

I would think not. And the other interlocutor here already conceded this point :)

LOL. Please note I'm speaking about single virgins; not engaged virgins. I have been stating this criteria since the OP. Verses 28-29 speak about if she is still single, and also not yet sexually active. She is not yet taken. The father wants her to eventually be taken, so he no longer has...

How do you know this?

It's not that I would be 'wrong'... You would have to be saying that NIV, among other Biblical translations are also 'wrong.' But regardless, I think you are bypassing an even larger picture. Please see what I stated, all the way back at the end of the original post (i.e.): a: The father...

My current hypothesis, is that this law was man-made. The law was created to protect the father. Back then, men would only marry virgins. Unmarried, and sexually active, was a complete no-no - (regardless of consent or rape). A law needed to be written to protect the father from having to...

I could say the very same thing about you :)

Please explain why your provided Verses are relevant? The purpose is to address an unresolved matter, from a previous conversation; as the OP expresses. God seems to be more concerned with the welfare of the victim's father, and/or the rapist, verses that of the victim herself? The...

The single virgin may not be a child. This looks irrelevant regardless.