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  1. Copperhead

    What wonders do you think could fool the elect?

    Well, there has been apostasy and lying wonders going on since before the ink was dry on the NT. The church couldn't limp out of the 1st century before it had stumbled all over itself and fell flat on its face. Matter of fact, before Paul was killed. One of Paul's earliest letters was having...
  2. Copperhead

    On the very near Rapture Day Jesus will Return and Catch up those Looking for Him!

    You have seriously poor reading comprehension skills. I never said that the Law would pass away when all is fulfilled, but that it will not pass away TILL all is fulfilled. You had to be a real challenge to you teachers in school. Actually, I would contend there are at least 4 covenants all...
  3. Copperhead

    On the very near Rapture Day Jesus will Return and Catch up those Looking for Him!

    As cited inappropriately and out of context. Ok. I'll take it. I feel so humbled to be in the presence of such greatness. But I will continue to be silly and persevere. After all.... 1 Corinthians 1:27 But God has chosen the foolish (silly) things of the world to put to shame the wise, and...
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    On the very near Rapture Day Jesus will Return and Catch up those Looking for Him!

    It is silly to you because you do not accept this part of scripture and it doesn't fit your world view. That's ok. I am not worried if you don't buy the concept. It is a biblical standard provided by the Lord in scripture to aid in sifting out bad doctrine that I choose to apply. The...
  5. Copperhead

    On the very near Rapture Day Jesus will Return and Catch up those Looking for Him!

    Indeed it has been largely fulfilled in Messiah, but it isn't all fulfilled yet. Not until after the Messianic Kingdom on earth. Even He said.... Matthew 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is...
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    On the very near Rapture Day Jesus will Return and Catch up those Looking for Him!

    But we have to be honest, we don’t have the Apostles running around today clarifying what they meant, so we have to use some objective standard to test what YouTube Prophets are claiming the Apostles meant. Else, with all the fractured hermeneutics that goes on, anyone can dream up any doctrine...
  7. Copperhead

    On the very near Rapture Day Jesus will Return and Catch up those Looking for Him!

    Well, by Acts 17 was still pretty early. I am not convinced Paul had even written to the Thessalonians yet, and most scholars say that those were his earliest letters. Many put Peter’s letters in the 60’s AD. Revelation sure was nowhere around yet. When one subtracts all that, at best the...
  8. Copperhead

    On the very near Rapture Day Jesus will Return and Catch up those Looking for Him!

    Yeah, YHVH does not want us ignorant, but also does not want us to move our focus. The Matthew 22:42 passage for instance. What are we to watch for? Satanic symbols, deep state intrigue, etc, our watching for the return and our gathering to the Lord. Since I am firmly secure in the position...
  9. Copperhead

    On the very near Rapture Day Jesus will Return and Catch up those Looking for Him!

    A comment on whether Trump is in league with demonic, illuminati, or whatever, it really doesn't matter. if the Lord did not allow him to be in the job, he wouldn't be. It may or may not be part of some conspiracy, but I lose little sleep worrying about such things. Just like who is going to...
  10. Copperhead

    On the very near Rapture Day Jesus will Return and Catch up those Looking for Him!

    Notice it was to churches... corporate entities... not a report card on each individual. The big problem I see in all this partial rapture stuff is that it exhibits a weak understanding of the difference between justification and sanctification. And that can lead to a similarity with some sort...
  11. Copperhead

    On the very near Rapture Day Jesus will Return and Catch up those Looking for Him!

    There are some instances indeed where things are set straight forward in the NT text. But when we are dealing with eschatology like this thread, a standard has to be applied. The Torah requirement is for any matter to be established, it has to have the confirmation of two or more witnesses...
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    What wonders do you think could fool the elect?

    I will agree with that statement. But in all fairness, most "Christians" do not grow beyond the basic "I accept Jesus". Most do not even study or even have the desire to do so. As whether they are indeed Christians or not, that is outside my pay grade to judge. I am only allowed to be a fruit...
  13. Copperhead

    What wonders do you think could fool the elect?

    Then come at it a different way.... why did God harden Pharaoh's heart? God just takes advantage of what is already the reality. Pharaoh's heart was already against the Hebrew people. YHVH just took advantage of that to magnify the extent of His power and authority and deliver the Hebrew...
  14. Copperhead

    What wonders do you think could fool the elect?

    I can’t speak for most Christians, but I am confident I will know the identity of the two witnesses since I will be observing from the bleachers.
  15. Copperhead

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    Well, that seems strange. It is generally accepted that Revelation was written roughly 90AD. And there will be 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Jacob (Israel) set apart and sealed in the end time.
  16. Copperhead

    The Coming Great Apostasy

    The only problem with what Josephus said is that it is counter to scripture. So who do you trust? 2 Chronicles 11:16-17 And after the Levites left, those from all the tribes of Israel, such as set their heart to seek the Lord God of Israel, came to Jerusalem to sacrifice to the Lord God of...
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    The Coming Great Apostasy

    Don’t feel sorry! I’m not!
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    The Coming Great Apostasy

    I will try and make this as simple as I can. Indeed, Hosea primarily dealt with the northern kingdom, but regarding Hosea 5:14-15, both Ephraim (northern kingdom) and Judah (southern kingdom) are being addressed. And unless you can show us another time other than the first century AD where...
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    The Coming Great Apostasy

    You didn't even get on the same continent with what I was talking about. From the Torah..... Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the...
  20. Copperhead

    What wonders do you think could fool the elect?

    It sounds good, but the scripture is pretty clear that the antichrist will make war with and overcome the saints.