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Duped by that teaching? The Torah requirement that the Berean's exemplified was followed in my previous post. The passages in the OT and the NT support each other. But yours doesn't meet the Torah standard for evidence. A doctrine cannot be established on one verse, or even just the OT or NT...

Oh, boy. How is it I am acting like an OT Jew? Just because as a Gentile believer in the Jewish Messiah who believes that YHVH is a God who delights in making and keeping His promises? What, because I like using the Messiah's Hebrew name... Yeshua? I don't go to temple on Shabbat so I...

Indeed, the church is the main focus, but that doesn't mean that the Hebrew people are not also in view according to YHVH. The reality is not an either/or thing. There is only one way of salvation, that is for sure, but election is not a synonymous word with justification. It is just what the...

in what way? I support the concept of a physical Hebrew people that still yet have a purpose. Calvinist teaching doesn't support that. Calvinist teaching robs the Hebrew people of their own covenants and promises. Paul supports the Hebrew people still having the covenants and promises that...

Suffering from short term memory loss? I think you might want to go get looked at. I am most definitely not in the Calvanist camp. Now not only do you have a memory loss, but you choose to slander as well. I really shouldn't be surprised. I showed you the verse from the Tanahk that said...

The idea that Israel must acknowledge their rejection of Yeshua is clearly expounded in Hosea 5:14-15. So it is not really “totally... false” as you put it. The Mathew 23:37-39 passage is a reference to Hosea 5:15 and Psalms 118 which is a well known Messianic Psalm.

Not even close. That reference in Matthew 23:39 about "blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord" is a reference to Psalm 118 which is a Messianic Psalm. Those passages have nothing to do with the church they are totally Hebrew related. Hosea 5:14 - 6:2, Matthew 23:37-39, and Psalm 118...

If there is only one assignment of election at a time, then does that mean since the church is now elect that Yeshua isn't? After all, YHVH said that Yeshua was His elect in Isaiah 42. Isaiah 42:1 Behold! My Servant whom I uphold, My Elect One in whom My soul delights! I have put My Spirit...

If you stop at Romans 8, that leads one to conclude one thing. But if one throws in Romans 9, 10, and 11 and then tosses in Isaiah 45, then one comes to another conclusion. And if we take all instances in scripture of "elect", there are 4 different assignments of elect. One to Yeshua, one to...

We are really not that far apart. I think we agree on many points, just maybe a issue of semantics on the wording. The primary focus of the GT period is to drive the Hebrew people to the point where there is no hope left but to call out to the Lord, specifically Yeshua for their salvation. I...

But to take that further, the physical Hebrews who are not part of the Body of Messiah still have a purpose. The majority of Hebrews, more to the point the Hebrew religious leadership, still has a task to complete BEFORE Yeshua will return. Hosea 5:14-15 is quite clear that Jacob (both Judah...

How old are you?

Well, you did post a Hebrews reference, now you should provide OT passages that also support your analysis.

I still side towards the idea that all who are in Messiah will be removed. The partial rapture concept seems like just a variation on works righteousness. Either a person has been redeemed by Yeshua's death, burial, and resurrection of not. Three isn't some sort of partial saved thing going...

Right of the first part, but not the second. The partial rapture theory risks becoming a sense of pride, which is sin. And it exhibits a poor understanding of what justification is by confusing sanctification with justification. it becomes yet another works righteousness gig. All those who...

I wouldn't buy that. I am convinced that the only sin that cannot be forgiven is the rejection of the testimony of the Holy Spirit of who Yeshua is. And that is anyone who rejects Yeshua. And using your reasoning, then hardly anyone is saved except those that have a leisurely time of dying...

You have expended a lot of effort to strain at a gnat over this, yet you have not produced substantive passages from the OT to support your position. For any position to be valid, one has to show evidentiary support from both OT and NT. Equal and impartial. It is the Torah requirement. You...

Well, I do appreciate the honesty. It removes any suspicion. And it was a good chuckle. But using Bible verses, you have failed to follow the Torah evidentiary requirement in establishing a matter as exampled to us by the Bereans in the Book of Acts. To be taken more seriously regarding your...

That would be possible except that Yeshua pretty much stated in Matthew 24 that Daniel's comments about the abomination in the temple should be seen as a literal occurrence. Yeshua was speaking to a Hebrew audience in that passage. They were not looking for allegorical esoteric meanings in...

Sarcasm really is not necessary. If you can prove from both the OT and the NT that there removal, hiding, and protection of the Body of Messiah from the calamity coming upon the earth of the Tribulation period, then we would all be open to seeing it. I for one have laid out many passages in...