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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (treeoflife;53670) Oh, I get it now. That's easy. Restitution does not mean that all would be saved. Restitution could also mean that damned people will be where damned people need to be, and the saints will be where they need to be. Everything will be in it's proper place, wherever that is...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (thesuperjag;53669) These scriptures you posted are referring to a different kind of death like in II Corinthians 5:17, but it is not the same death in Ezekiel 18:4, Ezekiel 18:20, Revelation 20:14) Ezekiel speaks of physical death as a result of sin. Revelation 20:14 indicates that the domains...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (treeoflife;53666) I do not believe Jag is ignoring anything here. However, you *might* be (I think you are), and so I'm not sure what your point is. John 12:32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. Jesus said that all would be drawn to Him, *IF* He is lifted up...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    The state of "death" or being "dead" is often presented in the figurative sense. For exmaple in repentance we die to sin and the flesh. The New Testament states, Romans 6:2God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?Romans 6:7For he that is dead is freed from...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (thesuperjag;53568) I believe God gave us a free will to choose either Christ or Satan. Hence the reason there is a second death. (Revelation 20:14) Without free will, there is no true love to make a choice. (John 14:15) Amen, we have free will. A person can choose to reject God and go to hell...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (thesuperjag;53562) First off, would you please stop twisting my words. I never said "God forces love" In fact I said quite the opposite. 'It won't change the fact that God can not force anybody to love Him.'Secondly, I do not believe a "Burning in Hell forever" doctrine as it is well proven...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (thesuperjag;53527) Yes, but not in men's interpretation of it.Matthew 7:21 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 7:22 - Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (thesuperjag;53519) Be careful with your words Aquila. Tell me, what about Cain? After all he is a man. He is a human. Do you believe God will reconcile all things...or do you believe God is mistaken or misleading us?Acts 3: 20-21And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (thesuperjag;53480) We were once angels, hope you know that at least. Considering the fact you say that Hell is only for Satan (who is God's son) and his angels (who is also God's sons) and then say "Souls will only suffer until they have paid what is due and submit to Christ's rule" is...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (thesuperjag;53473) Why am I not surprised? You are missing quite a bit. Yes Christ is the Saviour of all men, (Acts 4:12, I Timothy 4:12) But God allows Satan to do his thing to corrupt His plans to see if His children wants Him. Satan will die the second death, (Ezekiel 28:18) as His children...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (kriss;53413) I have read the entire Bible on more occasions than I can count and there is no teaching of Universal Salvation We can go over every scripture one at a time and it still wont matter you can read whatever you want to see into them but that doesnt mean its right, I commend you for...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (kriss;53358) Well I guess you will have to believe what you do, but sense you said you were still forming your opinion .....I will tell you I do not ... see it as you are presenting I dont think any veres you presented proves what you are saying, I think you reading into them something that is...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    Kriss....Read what Christ said about his mission...John 12:32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth (crucified), will draw all men unto me. According to your position you believe that he will essentially fail. While you do not hold to an eternal Hell of torments, you believe that God will fail...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    Kriss…Regarding Hell Jesus said…Luke 12:42-4812:42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 12:43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (Red_Letters88;53194) I wish someone would have told us all sooner. We can reject Jesus- live how we want and still trick God into giving us eternal life!Btw Kriss, your post threw me off. You said this is much closer in scripture than eternal burning. There would not be a hell if it was just a...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    (kriss;52975) Yes I have read of this view it is often presented in Agnostic writtings I dont agree with it completly, But think it is much closer to scripture than burning in Hell eternally, I have pointed out the greek before but Eternal Hell believers are commited to there beliefs.I do...
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    Universal Reconcilation? (Christian Universalism)

    Praise the Lord everyone!I'm new here and please forgive me as I learn the rules. In a few threads around here I saw two different theological views being represented about Hell: Eternal Hell and Annihilationism. But there is a third view that is gaining some ground in Evangelical community...
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    Alcohol And Christianity

    I did a study on wine once. Drinking water in the days of Jesus wasn't very safe. They often drank wine or mixed it with water to dilute it. It was the alcoholic content of the wine that clensed the water or soothed the stomach. I believe the Bible teaches moderation when it comes to...