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The end result of this teaching is that those who have experienced it, become the man child in Revelation. That's it. That is the point of it all. That is the end result of the Tabernacle experience...according to what is stated on Justin's website. No deception there. Not at all. It may...

Stating that Christ or the Holy Spirit are controlling anyone is a serious perversion of what those verses mean. You are declaring that we become robots and no longer have any choice. If that is what you actually believe, then the situation is worse than I first thought. Is that what the...

no comment on your observation...why are men (not all at all but many) so intent on controlling rather than leading?

Well, you already said you had feelings about it. Your feelings were good you said. What are the five solas....... Those would be the five foundational scriptural truths of the Protestant reformers. They were in response to corruption and practices developed through the RCC and under which...

I found this interesting response to Justin in another thread in which Justin is pushing his experience. This person is responding to Justin with concern as have I. They have noted the same as I have with regards to allowing control by a spirit. Control is absolutely not the working of the...

In Justin's own words: I feel lead by the Spirit to lay out the framework for what needs to be done to help bring about the restoration of the spiritual fulfillment of the Feast of Tabernacles. This is by no means an exhaustive treatise on this subject but rather just a broad sketch of the...

Hardly. The reference is to a mystical experience...not the physical reconstruction. I guess the references to mysticism and God in person speaking to this women are overlooked? But you give her a thumbs up because you 'feel' it? Not because you know she is not in error? You agree that God...

Well that's not very helpful Arnie. You have just made personal comments that basically validate the same coin as what you appear to distain... just the flip side. Do you have something of interest or perhaps some scripture? That, would actually be helpful You may as well call me a...

Monday, April 29, 2013 THE MESSIANIC TABERNACLE EXPERIENCE HOSTED BY DEBRA GROLLER MINISTRIES AT CAMP HALUWASA, HAMMONTON, NEW JERSEY The interest in Messianic/Hebraic roots, history and experiential religious practices such as the Seder meal has grown tremendously. Its popularity...

Dear All If we throw scripture out the window in favor of someone's personal and questionable experience, what are the safe guards? Does anyone realize how many cults have started with exactly the same sentiment as quoted above? Perhaps the truth is not that many would rather kill or be...

I thought you couldn't read my posts anymore? :unsure: False doctrine will destroy faster than anything I know. False accusation is not nice either. The only thing I negate on this thread is your preference for personal revelation OUTSIDE of the Bible and your false advertisng. You are...

The dominance and submission thing is indeed very alive and very well. The article is not feminist. Why are Christians so eager to cover up the dirty laundry? It's like Catholics hiding all the sexual abuse. Women are treated like inferior creations in many many sects in the US...don't point...

Interesting perspective. So a Bible in the hands of an under-educated (according to the viewpoint you appear to present) is messy? Peasants? Oh my...and to think that women have the vote too. What IS this world coming to? Not at all W. Not at all. I am always keen to examine the Bible...

No they have not gone away. The Bible says that THESE signs will follow those who believe...the list is in the Bible. So I agree with yr statement but the offering made in this thread is not about those signs. It is about seeking experiences rather than seeking the One who gives them. And...

Sorry ~ I don't know what you are referring to..... :huh:

The above is from the op. I don't know who you are talking about...these some people in Christianity...many people call themselves Christian simply because they darken the door of a church on Sunday morning. I do not know anyone who actually IS a Christian who does not believe in the rapture...

I second that one JB...my thought exactly by the time I got to the end of the op.... and this from Rocky... Reveals does not believe in the Trinity...by the way rocky, God is not a spirit...He IS Spirit...not one of many...and He is also a Person...not just some vaporous force or impartial...

aspen...I have heard the charge of hypocrite from one Christian to another far more than from those who are not Christians. I like this ^^^ from rjp...because it actually refers to scripture. Positionally, we are all that we will ever be even if we have not yet experienced it and no one can...

What sign are you referring to Aren't you talking about the Tabernacle Experience? That is what you state some posts further back. The Bible clearly states that signs are for unbelievers. There are plenty of Christians who are constantly trying to 'prove' God. Those, are Christians who walk...

uh huh. and why the rebuke? because we pleased God? of course not...the only thing that causes pain is sin. I'm really not sure what your point is. I think you are trying to prove something that you may believe, but all the pain and suffering in this world is a direct result of sin...