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My point concerning Legion should be obvious. Legion was several spirit beings who were not visible but inhabited a human body. Now concerning the Christ and God: What part of "invisible" do you not understand. Get a dictionary. You say spirit born people don't get their spiritual bodies...

I believe marriage between a man and a woman will soon be outlawed completely. Same-sex marriages produce zero children. No dead-beat dads. No alomony. The taxpayers expenses for abortions, condoms, and birth-control pills would be eliminated. Soon there would be no people left to pollute the...

No!! It serves no purpose.

If you were to take the time to go back and read then you would find that Lazarus and rthe rich man are just one in a string of parabbles Christ spoke on. You do have to go back a piece to find where they start. What you are trying to say is not in the Bible. Paul never said "to be absent from...

Legion was many spirits all inside one body. What is your answer to this one? Do we simply ignore it? Joh_3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Is not...

I've never met John. I joined the Baptist church as a youngster. Denominations mean nothing to me. We all have the Bible.. I don't subscribe to 1/2 of the doctrines of the Baptist faith. I've just read and studied my King James for some fifty years now. By no means am I claiming I'm an expert.

MTPOCKETS, My own take on this is that the unsaved creature awaits the manisfestation of the sons of God for it is in their manisfestation that lies the unsaved man's hope. The resurrected saints will become the judges, priests, kings, who will bring the world at large to salvation and...

John_8:32, I am going to shut my own mouth and just read your posts. You've got it together. God bless.

If Christ was not resurrected in spirit, then he is not the firstfruits. The firstfruits would be Lazarus or the woman's daughter. Were Christ not spirit, he could not see the kingdom: 1Co_15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth...

Since David is said to still be in his grave and since Paul says we do not gather together unto the Lord until the Second Advent, and since the Christ himself stated that no one had ascended unto heaven except for himself, then those that rose and went into Jerusalem had to have risen as Lazarus...

Excellent post!! God bless.

Is not the creature the primary portion of the creation? I see little difference. Justification for the Christ speaking in parabbles.

Veteran, I said you wouldn't accept even the Christ's own words. The problem is that you're relying on parabbles and visions to support your dogma. Yes indeed, I believe the Christ. Elijaha was removed from the scene to keep the king from killing him. I believe he was taken to Mount Saini...

I tend to support the idea of universal reconcillation myself. It makes the most sense to me. Thank you. I had never read that before. So what then is one to do with these scriptures which plainly say otherwise? Just ignore them? Sorry, I refuse to ignore even those scriptures I may not like.

Refreshing indeed. Someone who has read the Bible with his eyes open. God bless you. Most who claim to be of the election have no earthly idea as to why they were saved. Most think they are just going to wing it off to some mansion in heaven and laze around eat grapes, play harps, and sing...

Veteran, David was one of God's favorites. Why didn't God take him to heaven, or paradise, Abraham's bosom, or Pensacola? Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. Act 2:30...

Rom_8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. Why? If all the sons of God are going to do is throw them into a lake of fire?

Paul says the saved were predestinated by the very will of God: Eph_1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Eph_1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to...

Is no one reading my post? I don't care if the events happen at the same time, one or the other is gathered first. Slow down and read my post.

Veteran, There are flesh and blood human beings and there are spirit beings. That's it. While there have been a very few human beings raised from the dead in flesh and blood bodies, there has only been ONE who has been raised from the dead as spirit. That was the Christ. No other has ever...