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"I fully understand your argument here Veteran "So when the word Rapture is used today, in the majority of cases, most people understand it to mean a Pre-trib coming and gathering to Christ, when per Scripture, Christ's coming and gathering of His Church is after... the tribulation per Matt.24...

Hello again Veteran. "Maybe you ought to try reading the title of your thread again?" I used the term "rapture" in my thread title (A Systematic Study of the Rapture through the use of Bible Scriptures), but nowhere in the title, but where is the "certain usage" that makes it so offensive to...

And I'll I'm asking for TWC is that we do it in the spirit of "love" TWC. Do we have a deal? thekingdomkeys

Veteran, I still claim that all of this fuss over the word "rapture" is nonsense and silliness and I believe that I have stated my case on that. I don't understand why we can't agree to disagree on the term (rapture)? If you are able to support your position on this doctrine and prove God's...

"Certain usage of the term 'rapture' automatically makes a false assumption from the start, simply because of its popular usage used by the Pre-trib School and doctrinists" Some may have done this Veteran, I'll give you that, but have I done that even one time in this thread? "As a matter of...

This is all semantics Phillip, I know where the word "rapture" originated from ...I know the history on it, you don't have to explain it to me. Where did the phrase "xerox machine" come from Phillip, when referring to a copy machine? Who cares? It isn't the word that is of importance when...

Phillip do the majority of us in this forum believe that the most important cause in a Christian's life is to lead others to Christ? I hope we can all at least agree on that principal? That seems to be what you are trying to say here: "It is a doctrine that robs men of salvation" ..."Or is...

I agree. Amen! thekingdomkeys OOPs! I didn't pick up your quote the first time Lively Stone, but I got it this time. I agree. Amen! thekingdomkeys

Hello Tomwebster, the term "rapture" might "carry with it a doctrine that is very dangerous and totally false" to you, but it doesn't to me, nor does it to the most of the people who wrote books on the subject, since they used the "rapture" within their books. When going to the bookstore to...

Hello Avoice, so the judgment continues huh? I am beginning to feel like Job!!! Let God be my judge, I have done nothing of the sort on anything that you wrote in your posting. Please answer my questions Avoice. No matter where one puts the "rapture" (pre, mid, post) there still will be a...

Hello Aspen, at the beginning of this thread I asked everyone if this one could be done differently ...I asked if we could have "civil discourse", didn't I? Why can't we debate in Christ's love? How can we call ourselves "Christians" if we don't even show His light? I still don't even...

Tomwebster and Veteran, everyone, no matter which side of the fence one resides on, on this topic knows that the term "rapture" is not mentioned in the Bible ...why do you guys insist on always bringing that up? It is a given, that when one says "rapture" they are talking about being "caught...

Hello Veteran, I am not trying to "pull out a couple of phrases from God's Word and try to isolate them from the rest" as you have stated. I attempted to tell everyone that this (these first 2 phrases) would just be the start of this study in this thread. I said (in so many words) that we...

What we are trying to determine here is the timing of these two phrases ("Day of the Lord" and the "Day of Christ"), in other words are both phrases talking about the same day and the same event or different days and different events? We aren't even trying to necessarily prove that the event...

I understand your point here TWC, but if it is OK with you, let's stay with the "Day of the Lord" and the "Day of Christ" in this initial word discussion ...we can add additional phrases like "the Son of Man coming on the clouds" later. I want to walk through this study step by step. Let's...

OK, correct me if I am misquoting you here Veteran, but based on Veteran's study of the scriptures, it sounds like he believes that both phrases (the 'Day of Christ' and the 'Day of the Lord') both refer to Christ's 2nd coming and the start of the Millennial Kingdom. Does everyone (pre, mid or...

I am a new member of this forum and I know that you guys have created quite a few threads on the subject of the "Rapture" (being "caught up" to God), but I would like to start a new thread on the "Rapture" done in a little bit different fashion. I am hoping that we can dive into the subject...

Hello everyone, I am a new member (thekingdomkeys) and I seem to be having software issues in this forum. I don't know where else to bring this up since I have tried to contact the system administrator and haven't received any emails back. I cannot open up the "Christianity Board Christian...

I am a new member of this forum (can anyone tell me why I am not able to open up the homepage ("Christianity Board Christian Forum) tab?) and I know that you guys have created quite a few threads on the subject of the "Rapture" (being "caught up" to God), but I would like to start a new thread...