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Sorry Brakelite.... still wrong. Any sentence that Jesus speaks is to take PRECEDENCE over any other sentence in the bible. If a person thinks there is some discrepancy (which there isn't when all scripture is properly understood) then that person ALWAYS goes to the words of Jesus.

In what Rockerduck?? 1. Persons with degrees to not seem to have deep discourse with those of us who do not. Basically, because we say dumb things..... 2. As you have because you CLEARLY do not know church history. You might some kind of degree...maybe...I don't know you. But it sure AIN'T...

Thanks for that great answer Jack. I'll go read my bible. Guess you don't have an idea....

So much posting by Calvinists of Romans 9. It's all they've got. And when I try to post re this...they disappear. I even will post written articles and YouTube links showing that ONLY the reformed interpret Romans 9 as they do. It's good for those reading along who may be interested...but I...

Initial salvation. Ok. Then what? We never talk about the THEN WHAT.....

How were persons saved BEFORE the gospel Doug?

This statement is correct and someone on this very thread has stated the same. I replied up above. It's very silly to make such statements ---- to say the least.

Ellie Let me ASSURE YOU that you are NOT following the teachings of the early Christians.

So how come we don't all agree on everything and we all claim to have the Holy Spirt? Plus you have your history all messed up, but I'm not getting into that. You might want to go back and study some more.

Brakelite Every now and then I come across really silly statements. I didn't finish reading your post...I stopped at this: PAUL/JESUS SPOKE WITH THE SAME AUTHORITY. That's quite a statement there Brakelite. So Jesus....who came directly from the Father and is GOD HIMSELF... has the same...

Been studying the Early Church Fathers Nancy. They learned from the Apostles so I tend to trust them. It's a shame the CC changed over time. It could have been the perfect church. Well, almost perfect - nothing in man is perfect.

Just saw this Elie12 The above is known to all who have studied the Witnesses for any amount of time. The Catholic Church does the same. One must believe everything the CC teaches in order to be defined as Catholic. You should have been a Catholic...at least THAT church goes back to the...

Agreed. Besides the fact that there is NO AGREEMENT in Protestantism. Every denomination has its own truth. Since there's more than one truth... there is NO truth. Agreed. He did intend to build a church. I mean a brick and mortar church AND an invisible church too. I know. But this is how...

Agreed 100% I don't know Reggie...I think that maybe you're more upset than I am !! Of course you're right in every way. Maybe what's so upsetting is that we think we can see things others can't. But, let me tell you this....MANY have seen what you're talking about... which is why Donald Trump...

My point exactly...I think you understand. Right. I like what Morgan Freeman states when is asked about racism. He asks: "Do you want to stop racism?" " Then stop talking about it!" Race relations were better in the 80's and 90's because we just treated each other as normal human beings. About...

This is interesting. I'm attending a Catholic church right now. Hardly anyone shows up anymore for quite a few years now and especially after Covid. They like to say that the church is being "cleaned out". Only the true believers will be left - which is, maybe, as it should be anyway. And yes...

Amen. And there you have it.... the simple gospel... the simple truth.... God loves His best creation--- man and would want that all be saved. 1 Timothy 2:4 3This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

You're funny.

Thanks you Ritajanice... always a pleasure to post to you. You're such an edifying person.... And THIS, your reply, is the reason I don't post to you.

Amen. And yet calvinism teaches that God will actually choose some for hell FOR NO REASON AT ALL... except for His good pleasure. Yes. Something in the church is dead wrong.... And we must stand up to it and declare that it is wrong.