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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Vast majority of the hate levied at LDS Christians is based on false “facts” as we’ve seen many of here, or just pure ignorant tribalism. Personally, I believe that the two great commandments are a call to play sh past such tribalism, and instead truly see and love our neighbors. Including...
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    This thread isn't about JW.
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Cassandra, I truthfully stated that I don't believe in Consubstantiality, the idea that the Son and Father are one through essence. Consubstantiality - Wikipedia You are thinking of transubstantiation, the idea that the Lord's Supper literally becomes blood and flesh. It's true that LDS...
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Addressing first part first: I don’t require threats of torture to love Christ and to choose to follow Him- that I do out of love. And I see His fruits in my life every day. It’s a joy that I celebrate and want everyone else to also share in today. Hence Christ urging that. On the contrary...
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    I very much understand the beautiful message you are saying. :)
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    <3 I'm happy to answer questions. I'm also happy to point your to resources. And if you want to go check things out yourself (first hand research!) then you're totally welcome to attend LDS Christians services, zero need to pretend to be a member or anything else. And hey "I don't know...
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    I'm going to be direct here: I'm a disciple of Christ. Joseph Smith is a sinner like every other person that's ever lived. He ain't my Savior. I do not worship him. I readily acknowledge his many many falters. And I do also believe that he was an (extremely flawed) servant of God. All...
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Shawn McCranney's very unpopular in about every circle. I'm going to skip critiquing the individual. And nope: LDS Christians don't believe in some terrible fate for ex-believers. Nor any eternal torture place like mainstream Christians do. Rather, LDS Christians have different view of the...
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Did that decades ago :)
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    I'm a disciple of Christ, not Joseph Smith. My faith is the result of extremely thorough study of scripture & prayer conferring with Him. As I said earlier, I first read the Bible cover-to-cover age age 9. Read many times since then. I've studied a bunch of other writings too, studied many...
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    There are indeed always wolves out there, in every bunch of people. Same with I-don't-want-to-think folks like my MIL. Knowing those type of folks exist in every bunch, I really despise it when people instead use "cult" to mean a denomination. Every denomination has a wide variety of folks...
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    I also read the Bible very heavily, first read it cover to cover at age 9. My last read through focused on ladies of the Bible, giving their stories a spotlight.
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    And my mother-in-law is a Baptist cultist. She blindly follows her pastor, blindly believes everything he says, votes how he tells her to, etc. She is very hostile to anyone who doesn't recite the same party lines, and will sneak around & do unethical things "distribute truth". I can &...
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Going from super-short and to short. :) I don't know how long of answer folks like (generally folks including myself don't like reading or writing essays). The false story that gets proclaimed is "Mormons believe that God was a man!" And in that they are implicitly packing in their ideas of...
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Yeah, that's not accurate.
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    I went over this extensively with Marks yesterday on this very thread, you can go back and read it if you like. I'm out of patience and not going to repeat it. Super TLDR: I'm not God. If you're going to play the "different Jesus" card not based on my actual view of about God/Jesus, but...
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    As I also already said. The Creedal idea of “created being” does not apply to LDS Christianity, especially not to Christ.
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Forever and ever. Infinite. Never at any point has Christ not existed.
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Super short answer: contrary to the claims of "anti-cultists", that's not actually part of LDS Christian doctrine. I can go more in-depth to this if you want. Note: LDS Christians believer that Christ has always been, and He's always been God.
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    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    No one is replacing God. The Father is always going to be our Father, and Christ always our Savior. But we do become 100% pure clean, joining with Him. Becoming one with Him doesn't make more than 1 God- it's joining Him, not replacing Him. There's still only that one great will / glory /...