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  1. keithr

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Interestingly God's name, YHVH, appears about 6940 times in the Old Testament, which is more often than the word God, which only appears 2694 times (in the WEB).
  2. keithr

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    That was a completely different occasion. At the burning bush all that Moses could see was fire in the middle of a bush - Exodus 3:2-3 (UASV+): (2) The angel of Jehovah appeared to him in a blazing fire from the midst of a bush; and he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, yet...
  3. keithr

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    God is immortal, so He cannot die. His only begotten Son was not immortal - Jesus could die. Jesus humbly prayed to God that after his death that God would restore him to the glory that he had before the creation of the world - John 17:5 (WEB): (5) Now, Father, glorify me with your own self...
  4. keithr

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Yes. It was God's will, God's design and plan, and God chose that His beloved Son should implement His plan, just a a human father would delight in teaching his young son how to create something. Colossians 1:12-20 (Updated American Standard Version - UASV+): (12) giving thanks to the...
  5. keithr

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The Scriptures say, Exodus 3:2 (WEB): (2) Yahweh’s angel appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the middle of a bush. He looked, and behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. Psalms 104:4 (WEB): (4) He (Yahweh) makes his messengers winds; his servants flames of...
  6. keithr

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Why do you ask that immediately after the verse that I quoted; weren't you paying attention?! Here it is again - 1 Corinthians 8:6 (ESV): (6) yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and...
  7. keithr

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    God, our Father in heaven, directed both activities. God sent an angel, or Jesus, to perform the plagues and maintain the pillar of cloud and pillar of fire to lead the Israelites. God sent His only begotten son, Jesus, to be the saviour and redeemer of mankind. The result of the second work...
  8. keithr

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    I can't keep up with this discussion - the number of posts seems to be increasing exponentially! I'll contribute this extract from 'The Great Debate Regarding The Father, Son & Holy Spirit', appendix D, concerning John 1:1. The only passage which even comes close to teaching the Trinity is 1...
  9. keithr

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Yeshua also said he had a God four times in one verse - in Revelation 3:12 (WEB): (12) He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which...
  10. keithr

    Define salvation. ( what is "the Gospel")

    It's not my version! It's the Literal Standard Version. Likewise Young's Literal Translation says: (17) And the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is , there is liberty; Other translations that also say "the Spirit" are, for example, the American Standard Version, Darby...
  11. keithr

    Define salvation. ( what is "the Gospel")

    Sorry, but we're not allowed to discuss the doctrine of the Trinity. I obviously believe the Trinity doctrine to be a false doctrine. I was just pointing out the error of changing the Scriptures by substituting the name Jesus when it is not there in the original Scriptures. The original name...
  12. keithr

    MATTHEW 16:28 WHO IS STANDING HERE, WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE DEATH?

    Perhaps Jesus was referring to the apostle John, who was the last of the apostles to die (and was the only one to die of natural causes), who was given visions of Jesus coming and establishing the Kingdom of God, etc. - the book of Revelation. Revelation 1:1-2 (WEB): (1) This is the...
  13. keithr

    Define salvation. ( what is "the Gospel")

    I presume you are paraphrasing 2 Corinthians 3:17 (KJV): (17) Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. or more accurately (LSV): (17) And the LORD is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the LORD [is], there [is] liberty; This is not referring to...
  14. keithr

    Define salvation. ( what is "the Gospel")

    Paul tells us what the Gospel is in 1 Corinthians 15 (WEB): (1) Now I declare to you, brothers, the Good News [Gospel] which I preached to you, which also you received, in which you also stand, (2) by which also you are saved, if you hold firmly the word which I preached to you—unless you...
  15. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    What was the point of Jesus telling the story, and why do you think he told it?
  16. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    This parable does name a person! The parable doesn't say that either the beggar or the rich man loved God. If you are not a Christian God still knows your name. Matthew 10:29-31 (WEB): (29) “Aren’t two sparrows sold for an assarion coin? Not one of them falls on the ground apart from your...
  17. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    Jesus is not God, but that's a topic that we're not supposed to discuss in these forums. Jesus didn't always tell people up front that he was going to tell them a parable - he just told a parable. The people were not so dumb as to not realise that it was a parable. For example, Luke 8:4-11...
  18. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    So if I had quoted exclusively from the KJV would you condemn me for using that translation too? Okay, I'll do the work for you. Here's just one example: Matthew 13:18 (KJV): (18) Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. Matthew 13:18 (YLT - Young's Literal Translation) (18) 'Ye...
  19. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    Who said I was using the WEB as "a final authority"? Or that I base my understanding of Scripture on just that one translation? You are making incorrect assumptions. Most Bible versions are not literal translations. So what? Literal translations don't even use the word parable; they use...
  20. keithr

    14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

    I have never made that claim, so why would I say that to Jesus? Do you realise that to commit a libel is a sin? Exodus 20:16 (WEB): (16) “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.