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Jesus is there in body as are the saints from paradise.

Some people in here are so immersed in labels and doctrine that they even tell me to quit quoting scripture

The reason you keep misquoting Matthew 24 is because you have a doctrine that I am totally destroying. All I am doing is showing you what Jesus said when you follow men and their doctrines they will eventually make a fool out of you

NOPE He compares it to before the flood So sorry to see that there was no wicked that perished before the flood as you are insisting

Jesus said his coming is before the flood please don't butcher it it's what Jesus said. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took...

Calm down and use scripture. Stop all that dead man spew and defend your doctrine outside of all those ridiculous props. Yes we see all your defending and condemning of dead men. What drives you into all that nothing burger nonsense???? Address this; The AC kills all without the mark. rev 13...

Yes i quoted it. As opposed to you quoting PART OF IT 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark My...

The only place I ever see darby, is when you "man followers" accuse others of being man followers. I have never stated that I follow any of those dead men. You, however, celebrate that you follow dead ancients, and use their quotes out of context to dishonestly promote your admitted following...

I am not the one dancing around romans 11, or trying to say the 144k ethnic Jews are something you made up. Your deal is really debunked, tired doctrine. I was wondering how long before you started your little attacks personally. You're obsessed with error, then can't handle being called out...

the point is, a doctrine based on the "pillar" of one verse ,(trumpet) is shaky. I can defend the pretribulation with about 7 verses There are zero post tribulation verses.

Mat 24, mat 25, acts 1, The last supper dialogue, the 2 escape verses, rev 14;14, 1 thes 4, rev 19, (that is all pretribulation rapture doctrine verses against your zero verses) So i ask again for you to find at least one post tribulation rapture verse. now Read mat 24 ;30> 30....and they shall...

LOL You just presented your theory that mirrors replacement theology. You can not reconcile the 144k ethnic Jews or romans ch 11. ...nor can anyone trying to make that doctrine fit scripture

It says "two men in a bed, One taken, The other left" You say one is wicked, with the mark of the beast, and one is a righteous, a born again believer. Your theory of all that is that half the world is wicked and taken in Judgement. Wow, that is truly bizarre! A born again believer in bed...

You are replacement theology?? What on earth do you do with romans 11??? What do you do with the 144k being ethnic Jews??? SMH

You left out all pretrib rapture verses to come to your conclusion. Your post outlines postrib talking points, and that you got your doctrine from ancients on a time of great error as did the Catholics. Ahem...the Catholics burned heretics and their writings. ( pretribbers). You research very...

Your verse says AFTER TGE TRIB ( THE ONLY PART YOU READ CORRECTLY) , ANGELS GATHER, (not Jesus), FROM HEAVEN, (not earth) So your theory is totally based on misinformation. Again your hope that the church fathers NEVER taught a pretrib rapture has been DEBUNKED FOR YEARS. The postrib workbook...

Of course they did. Jesus told us about 1/2 the church is left behind. Nobody believes they didn't come out of the trib. It matches perfectly with "all refusing the mark are killed, every man woman and child." So who passes through it??? You just made the case for the impossibility of anyone...

The Jews are ushered away to safety. Daniel says THE AC kills ALL the saints. Millions are before the throne in Rev. It says they were murdered IN THE TRIB. No such thing as a postrib rapture. Never has fit and never will.

"Last trumpet" is not a smoking gun to void 5 or ten verses. That methodology guarantees error. The verses I bring are not in your doctrine. Postrib do not research. Every postribber I have debated leaves out the purpose of tge trib, the fact that the Jewish only gathering is mid trib and tied...

Nope nope nope. "One taken one left" is pretrib Acts 1 " like manner" is pretrib 5 wise virgins are taken pretrib. Not only that, but in 1st thes it says "the Ac is revealed at the rapture." He comes on a white horse PRETRIB. We do see a mid trib gathering in Rev 14:14 However, that gathering is...