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1 cor10 1Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same...

Heb 6 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing...

Uh, no, the basis for osas is that sin is not in the picture. That is the message of osas. I can be disobedient Or moderately disobedient Or grossly disobedient. In osas it is not a factor at all. So all the carnal disobedient believers breath a sigh of relief knowing disobedience is winked at...

Romans 11 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold...

Osas is obsessed with the concept. Where is the root in that paranoia? I totally believe it comes from the pulpit of carnal preachers. As does cessation and election. It has no traction in an on fire intimate believer. Osas is an obsession with others that haven't got the Baptist memo. What...

Your biggest hurdle is in understanding the debate. Until you do, you will just parrot your circular reasoning. You do not understand what the objections are. That is why osas depends on refraiming the other side. How aggegeius must sin become before God stops winking at it? Osas says you...

Oh yeah. I know you well. I attend a Baptist Bible study 3 times a week One of them has now questioned osas. The rest default to what they hear in the pulpit. I am full gospel. I am a bit of an odity in the bible study. I am once saved always saved. You question security. I do not. I an secure...

Snarky. "Much love" Is as much a cliche as anything. Say it 100 times a day. It loses any meaning. BTW. Spell check changed it to "sparky" in this post also.

SMH Your entire argument is simply parroting what you have been taught. We ALL BELIEVE our salvation is eternal. You have no idea what depart from the faith is. Here is tge difference and game changer for anyone looking for truth and an HONEST discussion. IN AN HONEST DISCUSSION, I WOULD...

You just flat out do not understand what I am saying. I do not think we will ever be on the same page. You REFRAME what I say. Just leave it be. If you say no saved person has the ability in your world to depart from the faith it just must be correct. I really do not have any more time to...

Too bad you did not understand what I said. But honestly your " gotcha style" followed by "much love " is kinda silly. Ahem, love is different than your attitude. What I am saying is that some are walking way too deep into Jesus to ever depart. Jesus takes up habitation in every believer...

Yes beware. Beware of those using portions of the bible that contradict it. Daniel 7 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the...

Yes I am secure. No problem. But I could "defect" (since "walk away" is so troublesome to your logic). Your doctrine has you painted into a humanistic logic corner. Your strange claim is that no born again believer has tge ability to depart from the faith. Your deal is circular. Osas. If...

Never said it. Maybe reply honesty next time Much love in a snarky post?

Anyone can walk away. But no, some, such as myself ,can not. It would not work for me. My walk and relationship is non negotiable. It is man's thinking and notions that believe someone can not depart from the faith. Paul calls it "shipwrecked" Paul committed a BELEVER to Satan for the...

He has taught you that : There is no rapture Satan is bound No marriage supper in heaven No two wives ( Gentile, Jew) ... and Amil "revelations from god" All of the entire Bible is seen through a distorted prism. Thank you Jesus I got away from that doctrine in 1977 Just a treasure of info.

I believe you 100% ( he will never cast out those born again) ....but they can defect. If they can not, then God has robots. I also believe a covenant has 2 parties. If I am unable to walk away it is not a valid covenant. IOW, There are sanctions in every covenant if one party walks away. The...

The debate is circular. The truth is BOTH ARE TRUE. We are both elected and choose Him. It is vividly illustrated in the Jewish wedding . Look at it this way. Billions of people. God visits them through supernatural circumstances. They choose him. Some do not. But he died for every single one.

It is as if you have completely factored out the walk and relationship with Jesus AFTER SALVATION. REALLY??? You have no concept of "covenant" No concept of the bride and groom.???? It is as if you are illustrating a wife with a marriage document holding it up and even wearing it in graphics...

Now factor on romans 9, 10, 11. ..and Paul referring to the Jews as his brethren. Repl Theo is 100% one sided.