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@marks As I understand narcisistic personality disorder, the narc has low to non-existant self-esteem to the point of having no confidence in having their needs met (emotional or otherwise), unless they manipulate and control, forcing others to oblige towards what they need. This is the going...

Yes since the Word was begotten. I don't understand entirely how it works though it seems that you do.

I think it is on the lines of the Father creating all things through the Son. So Christ created all things in a sense too.

That is the Father God who is not the Son.

Actually they can help if they have cPTSD not necessarily sexual abuse. What I need mostly is just someone to talk to. as I have no-one but I have done all of the research and understand exactly how I have been damaged. I have learned a few somatic exercises I learned that work. Trauma is...

I don't have the Greek to argue on that one. I don't think you have either and it looks like Johann is gone. Yes I know that you think the begetting was for Jesus the man. Who was it that appeared to Moses? Yes He had a beginning as only the Father was in eternity, one God the Father maker of...

John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. There are many verses that say it was through the Word that creation came into being. But at the same time the Father is the Creator and source of all things. I think it means that without the...

Wow really!!?? Last February to be exact. That sounds too weird! I too have had various counsellors but none of them touched on what was at the base of it all. I had one from the NHS this past year and she was supposed to be trauma informed but made me stressed. It is very hard to find trauma...

Sounds like the nightmare my life has been and agree that we can spot it in others. It has given me much more sympathy and love for others which I can now spot a mile away. I used to be judgemental but I was that way towards myself as well and beat myself up all of my life.

Amen me too. Amazingly it was not until a year ago that the full reality of it hit me although I knew my family had never been supportive and only ever found fault with me. Now it is all coming in fast. Have you had any trauma counselling Ritajanice?

Correct, He was begotten in eternity which has no beginning but His creation meant that time and space were now in existence.

I believe that God the Father brought the Word His Son forth who was begotten in eternity which immediately meant that He was in the time and space immediately created, and thereafter, the rest of creation took place as God as spirit was unable to enter into T & S. So His Son was able to bring...

It is a hard thing to grasp how Christ created the universe as well as the Father.

Neither do I Lizbeth. It just takes a while to get ones head around the fullness of it all.

@Ritajanice Toxic family - like mine. I was the scapegoat of the narcissistic family system, with the whole family believing that I was the problem, and they never changed that tune. My brother was the golden child and will still put me down if he manages to have contact with me (I am low...

He is not equal to angels as they do not share the same essence as God. He created all things after being brought forth into time and space.

In terms of time not eternity. Born into time means there is a beginning.

Well, it's not a competition...no amount of childhood abuse or type, is acceptable. Believe it or not, a marriage guidance counsellor, responding to what I told her when my ex was complaining about my lack of interest in that department, and said that I should not report it as it would no doubt...

It was not till my 40's that I was able to remember and put a name on it after reading about child sex abuse.

8-10 years of age.