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It does not answer the question? A reply that is a non answer like the one above is worthless.

I asked the question. So where is the answer. A discussion is a two-way street.

You are confused as to what is doctrine and what is a teaching. The idea was first spoken of by Origin of Alexandria. It never was an applied doctrine of the Church, either east or west. I might also mention that every false teaching came from some individual within the Church. But none of them...

The schools were not schools as you and I think of them. Besides that, schools did not determine the doctrine of the Church. Doctrine was determined by what was believed from the beginning by the Church. Individual men, or schools never determined what the Church believed. The first time in...

Your statement is about the Incarnation. That is why I asked the question. If you didn't know that, then you don't understand what you stated, they are directly connected.

Yes, which is why I asked the question. So, how do you understand the Incarnation?

Just a factual correction. Universalism was never a Christian doctrine. Origin (185 - 254) was the one who first wrote about Universalism. This teaching was declared heretical by the Fifth Ecumenical Council of 553 (Council of Constantinople II).

What is your understanding of the Incarnation?

You can believe what you want. You have nothing but your opinion on the matter. What I gave to you has been the understanding of the gospel from the beginning. Your attempt to put your understanding or interpreting what I stated notwithstanding. You have a problem in understanding someone and...

I have underlined the statement you made where you say that Christ, who has put His Spirit into us, who also quickens our dead bodies through faith. Then you say "I did not say our bodies are quickened by our faith. You are so confused on this issue you cannot keep track of what you say in...

Our bodies are not quickened by faith. We, mankind, do not receive immortality by faith. We all get immortality at the resurrection in the last day. I Cor 15:53-54. Quicken means to make physically alive, not spiritually or relational which we get by faith.

I have no idea why it was moved either. Most of the forums that are of Protestant origins all have heresies galore in them. For an Orthodox Christian, OSAS is a heresy. It was condemned by the Church in 1672 in the Council of Jerusalem along with most of what is called Calvinism. It is also...

Why is this so difficult for you to understand. First, Christians are not Pantheists. We do not become God and share in His immortality. All human beings will be raised from the dead because of the resurrection of the Incarnated Christ. I Cor 15:21-22 is addressing this point. Death came to...

Its not what I stated but your incorrect understanding of what I stated. Adam is the only person who could have attained immortality through obedience, created immortality. Man since Adam cannot attain immortality. That is why we needed Christ to become Incarnate, which means Christ assumed...

If you think you are correct then give me some evidence from the Apostolic times and immediately post Apostolic that held to your view. Adam was not created either mortal or immortal. He was free to attain either position depending on his obedience to God's command. He sinned and the...

Hardly, when what I stated has been the understanding of Creation and the creation of man from the beginning. The view has not changed for 2000 years within His Church. I also never stated that man wanted to make himself in God's image. Those are your words. But man was created to be like God...

Wanting to make oneself like God, (likeness) is what man was created to do. However, He was created to do this with God. Adam chose to attain it by himself. You contradicted yourself above "If any does not abide in Me does not square with your following statement, "It does not depend on...

Where in scripture does it say Satan condemned all of humanity to hell? He did this but He did a lot more. If it was only His sacrifice for sin we would all still be lost. This is true. His work was completely objective. BUT His objective work is not what is offered. Because of His...

Its not that I am not interested, but that they don't address the issue with the fall of man and what Christ did to overcome the fall of man. Prior to my post, all the posters were speaking as if Christ did only one thing which was to perform a sacrifice for sin. This was a secondary work of...