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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Christ accomplished two very specific work from the Cross by His death and resurrection. He defeated death for the world. Gave life to the world. This is an objective work. It is imposed on every human being and the world. It is accomplished in the last day, when all men will rise from the...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    I don't discount how you understand what you call salvation. It is your view. For me none of the above is a valid scriptural situation. Using the phrase having been saved or are saved never appears in scripture relative to one's faith walk with the Holy Spirit. Historically the view does not...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Based on the Cross of Christ, Christ saved the entire world and mankind from the power of death and sin. Christ did not save a single individual personally from the Cross. His cross work made it possible for God to have union with man as he was meant to be. That union is solely based on each...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    The ONLY example in the Sower parable is the first. The seed did not take root. The other three all speak of believers.
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    I don't need to search. I know that there is no guarnatee of salvation in one's lifetime. Your explanation of Matt 24:40-51 contradicts what the verse says, This is a servant of the Master who is faithful, BUT becomes unfaithful. He does not repent, thus will be cast with the unbelievers. If...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    It is much stronger than "not strong:. It does not exist. The issue here and for those who support a view of "not losing salvation" is that the concept does not exist in scripture. We have assurance that we are on the right track, but no guarantees. It is all about faith. How faithful one...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Texts only help if one is basing them on the scriptural definition of what constitutes a believer. One is either in the Kingdom or is not in the Kingdom. Baptism has always been from the beginning the entrance into the Kingdom. Peter makes this clear in his sermon at Pentecost. Acts...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    First, none of the texts point to a condition of one losing salvation. In this life we have no quarantee of salvation. We don't possess it in the past tense. It is something that is being held as an inheritance, I Pet 1:3-5. The whole scripture is about abiding in ones faith. As long as...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    And just how does this answer my statement?
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Why is the NT filled with texts exhorting believers to remain faithful, to be obedient. If one believes that you have some kind of security the NT could be cut down to just a few chapters. You will not find a single text where a living individual is ascribed as being "saved" in one's...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    To say that eternal security exists also implies that there might be opposition to the concept, as you state. So, how does scripture teach two different concepts? For either side, on what basis are you determining who is a believer?
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Historically, all false teachings, until the Protestant Reformation, came from within the Church. Paul warned the early Church to watch for false teachers, including those of his day. This is why it is very easy to spot false teachings because they have never been believed from the beginning...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    At least you admitted it is simply your opinion. None of your responses have ever been the Gospel Truth. You deny the creation story as scripture states. You have an unscriptural concept of the fall of man. You have no idea how God saved the world from destruction, in fact you think...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Your response has nothing to do with my statement. You don't cite any scripture to show what you say would correct what I stated. Where do you think it comes from? Never stated nor implied it was a current reality. If the context is I Cor 15:21-22 it is every single human being. At least...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Wow, your theology just amazes me. So you make God the creator of sin, which is not a thing, but an act or an ommision of an act. God did not create Adam or this creation mortal. Why would God create something to be eternal, call it good, then also create the means to destroy His own...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    In answer to your question regarding spiritual death of Christ. It did not happen. I do not mind the questions. I have been on and off boards since early 2000's. There are people who will argue for their view over several other views, all claiming that they are correct. Logic says only one...
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    That is your error in understanding the meaning of words and context,. Check the meaning of quickened? Yes, they were otherwise they would not be in hell. They would no longer exist.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    So you just disregard scripture to the contrary.
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    The Gospel of Reconciliation

    Yes, for the purpose of ridding our mortal natures of sin. So they can be raised immortal. Heb 9:27. You really have a very difficult time understanding theology. No but everyone was raised by His Spirit from the dead. The context here is Paul is speaking to and about believers. That does...