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In this context it not only means all mankind, but everything in the world. There was nothing exempt from His reconciliation. Col 1:20 Everything that is made correct. One can reconcile an argument, we also use the word justify in the same context. You can justify your check book against your...

Never stated it was not important, but it the reason Christ came to defeat death. You're bypassing the primary work of Christ. He assumed our human nature, that is flesh and blood. Every human being has the same flesh and blood. He defeated Satan who has the power over death. Once He...

That is an example of reconciliation. To make the relationship right between whatever is being corrected. You reconcile your checkbook with a bank statement. It means to make it right. Justification, righteousness all have the same meaning as well, to make right. See above. It means to...

So you do, But it is also a direct rejection of what scripture states. Christ reconciled all things. Col 1:19-20 Mankind the universe. You are correct that I brought this view because it has been the view of Christians from the beginning. The Apostles taught the early Church and we have the...

Scripture disagrees with you. Gen 3:19 is speaking of physical death, not a loss of a relationship. All human beings will become immortal and incorruptible by grace. I Cor 15:53-54. We will be resurrected with the bodies we had, they will come out of the graves. The same body as Jesus had and...

Reconcile means to make right. You are correct, God does not forgive the world. He restores His creation back to its original intent, to be eternal. I was mistaken, You do not know what an equation is. Your theology is not consistent. If I Cor 15:21-22 is limited to only those in Christ...

You are correct that Adam died spiritually. His sin broke the relationship he was created to have with God. Sin is not organic, it does not transfer to another person. God even tells us in Ezekial that sin will not be given to another. He was removed from the garden so that mortality will...

Roman 5:12 is specifically speaking of physical death. It corresponds to Gen 3:19. Because of the sin of Adam, Adam died, suffered mortality, dust to dust. That is NOT spiritual death. This death spreads to all men through that mortal nature which all men share since. There is a difference...

The important vs are 14-15. You miss the whole reason that He can give aid to the seed of Abraham. Having a relationship with man is why man was created in the first place. That relationship was lost permanently by death. Death needed to be ended so that He (Christ) could give aid to those...

So far, its the context that follows that you depart from. This is what you are totally missing. You cannot have a Christ dying and being resurrection for only some human beings. It is an absolute impossibility given the meaning of the incarnation of Christ. Until you understand the...

It starts out that way, however he emphasizes that we have that ability to be justified by faith because of the hope we now have. That hope is described in vs 6-21. It is speaking about the work the Incarnated Christ did for mankind. Without the world being reconciled there is no hope. There...

Based on your view, which does not align with historical Christianity. You clearly deny the Incarnation of Christ. You have no understanding of the doctrine which is one of the historical hallmarks along with the Trinity for Christianity. You sounding like an old record. You have not address...

You can say that a thousand times but that will not change what scripture states. So far, we have found that you do not believe what scrpture states about the fall of man. You do not believe in the Incarnation of Christ, You do not believe Christ died was resurrected to give life to the world...

That is just amazing. Is this what Calvin wrote as well? How can non-elect be of physical seed of Adam. but did not fall in Adam? If they did not fall in Adam, then we have millions of people who never died. Or do you have some text that that establish how they might have died, if they did...

This is interesting theology. If Adam represents the Church, and only the Church is corrected, then you have a conundrum. That would mean there were other human beings with Adam who were not condemned through Adam. Are they all alive still? We should have people still alive from the time of...

It is not about elect or believers after vs 6. Citing Rom 5:18 is quite clear it is all men. It does not say elect nor believers. Playing devils advocate here. If your statement is true, then Rom 5 would only be about elect as well. Thus we have a portion of mankind that was condemned...

Vs 6 is a transitional vs. He has been speaking about believers, being justified by faith. He speaks of the hope believers now have. What is that hope? Christ died for the ungodly, which is all men. If you disagree then you need to develop a theory of what is the condition of all other people...

I'm not sure to what you are referring. The entire Bible is written to and for Christians. The first 6 vs is about Christians, but from vs 6 to the end Paul is referencing why we have the hope he speaks about in the first 6 verses. You just implied that the whole of Chapter 5 is about...

Correct. So do I. Propitiation refers to Christ's sacrifice for sin. It is not being referenced in Rom 5:18. There is not subset implied or stated in this text. The whole context of Rom 5 is about that the condemnation of death through Adam was universal, as was the resurrection of Christ...

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