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What's going to be real good? Blood flowing? Aborted baby's blood? Or someone else's blood? How can any conflict involving the flowing of blood be good?

My perspective... Your founding fathers for the most part lived in the late 17th and 18th centuries right? You believe they were writing and advocating a worldview that sought to restrain government from dictating to the church, but approved of the church influencing the state. Now keeping in...

I know that may sound shocking. I don't blame it on any particular doctrine like OSAS, but I know 2 women personally whose husbands abused them and the marriage disintegrated. I am living in a house once occupied by one of those women, and work with another. Both were elders in their respective...

It's quite easy for us in the Antipodes to laugh at all the shenanigans that has been going on, but we are talking about some extremely evil goings on here, the likes of which has only been previously reported in corrupt "banana republics", and then only by a select few leaders in that place. It...

With all those rorts going on, little wonder the former administration so vehemently opposed a new admin, and was accusing Trump of the very things they themselves have been found implicated in.

Is trust, to the extent we do surrender, a learning curve that God takes us on throughout our lives... Is that an intrinsic part of sanctification? Is that learning curve for everyone, or only for those willing to take the first steps, then the next step, them the next and so forth. If we baulk...

Why don't we trust Him enough to surrender all?

And/or beat up their wives and/or children

YES!!!! Exactly!! My daughter once got a message from me that read, I love your hips. That is not what my finger intended.... I love you heaps.

Well, I think the decision making of our earliest ancestors was good, until it wasn't. I think the first thing we need to establish is that God is not going to take away our free will. He made us creatures capable of choosing right from wrong. That won't change. I believe we will be no different...

Which they inherited from the Greeks.

Many in this thread believe a new body makes the difference between sinning and not sinning. What happened to good old better decision making?

Indeed. Does God have authority over our lives to the extent suggested in the OP?

Excellent observation. So what are we aware of that those rebels weren't aware of?

I Surrender My Life Lord, but... please don't tell me who to date. I Surrender My Life Lord, but... please don't tell me how to spend my money. I Surrender My Life Lord, but... please don't tell me where to go to church. I Surrender My Life Lord, but... I don't like being super religious...

I guess the above is just a little too logical to consider. A pre-advent judgement? Decisions made in heaven before Jesus comes back to reward the righteous and punish the sinner? That would mean our cases coming before the judge for a decision maybe even now? Without our personal presence? Too...

Marvel.

I'm not sure what Quiet has in mind, but it's a great question... Why did God create man and go through the humiliation of the redemption process, knowing before creation such a step would be necessary? Here's my two cents worth. Lucifer rebelled in heaven before the creation of man. House...

I think you would thoroughly enjoy reading the Conflict of the Ages series by Ellen White. She also filled in the background and gives all the characters in scripturel a great deal of context and nuance. Edpecially the 3rd in the series, Desire of Ages, and the 5th, Great Controversy.

No, I don't. I haven't watched any other depictions of Christ in movies. I have watched Christian movies of course, and most of those seem to depict Christ, through those who believe in Him in the movie, as someone whose goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, mercy and grace was something...