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I believe Paul was speaking of a replacement body. The spiritual is the immortal and incorruptible body. Once we have it, we don't need to go back. Ecclesiastes 1:4 Generations come and generations go, but the earth remains forever. I can only assume this is a correct translation and the...

I think spirit in this context refers not to an entity but to a commitment / belief / attitude / vibe / mood. In the same way we talk about "the spirit of Christmas" or "the spirit of Halloween". We're talking about "the spirit of Christianity". So when you ask about "men walking around who...

Actually, his elect were gathered throughout heaven and earth. I know most Christians think of this as a rapture, but I believe it's describing the beginnings of Christendom. His elect were literally gathered into the kingdom of Israel / kingdom of God / kingdom of heaven at that time. Here's...

Even Jesus' own language around his return was clearly symbolic. I believe I posted evidence of that earlier today, but I can post it again if you didn't see it. Yes, I'm aware of this verse and the difficulty it presents. I would never ignore any scripture. There are two possibilities here...

I don't really feel like I've been corrected, although some of the scriptures are admittedly difficult to fully grasp. The word spirit in particular. Soul is easy. Soul is a living creature, but spirit is harder to nail down. For example, what is "the spirit of Christmas"? It's a feeling...

Wait, you just said preterism uses the word of God to prove the doctrine. So... isn't that a good thing?

I don't see the connection. I actually used the same example of the woman drunk with the blood of the saints to prove that Revelation is speaking of the destruction of Jerusalem, and here you are trying to use the same evidence to show that it is not. I don't get the connection though. How...

But see, I don't believe we need this old body to live in for eternity. I believe we would be much happier in pure spiritual form. In fact, isn't that what Paul told us in 1 Corinthians 15? Yes, he told us that there are two types of bodies, and that we would have a spiritual body after our...

It's not a problem at all. It works beautifully. That which is literal, is literal. That which is spiritual is spiritual and that which is symbolic, is symbolic.

So spirit and soul are not synonyms. I thought you said they were synonyms. My mistake. I actually agree with you that the body and spirit together, make a soul, a living being. I don't think we agree on what "spirit" is though. I believe it is our breath of life, or more specifically just...

I do admit that the return of Jesus is the most difficult to fit into preterism, but it fits nonetheless. You just have to understand that Jesus was speaking symbolically. The entire chapter of Matthew 24 is full of symbolism, I'm sure we can agree on that.

What you proved is that death existed in the old testament, and with that I agree, but things changed when Jesus came. He conquered death, and now we have immortality.

If we can agree that Matthew 24 is speaking of the destruction of Jerusalem, then it's easy to see the parallels in Revelation, which tells us that Revelation is speaking of the same event. In Luke 11 Jesus says Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the...

Let's look at this another way. In Matthew 24, Jesus told a parable of a master who would return, and this was obviously an analogy about himself, but notice that in his analogy the master destroys those who were not ready. The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect...

Do you believe that Jesus foretold the destruction of Jerusalem? If so, look at how Jesus describes his return in Matthew 24. “‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. Now look at how...

It's important to read the book, knowing that the symbolism is extremely heavy. You know Jesus does not literally have a sword coming out of his mouth, and you know he does not literally hold seven stars in his hand. You know there is no literal great serpent spewing water out of its mouth...

So.... we have two spirits? Are both these spirits individually conscious?

On the contrary. You think I started out as a preterist? Far from it. I was brought up in a Pentecostal church, being taught the book of Hal Lindsey every day of the week. I believed that Israel would come to Christ during the great tribulation, and that we would all be raptured up either...

That first generation was not responsible for all sin. That first generation was responsible for the sin of adultery. Specifically the adultery of pagan Israel against her husband, which is why she is the harlot of Revelation, and the subject of the entire chapter of Ezekiel 16. She rejected...

It amazes me how comfortable you are with having to explain away something so simple, solely for the purpose of supporting your preconceived beliefs. No matter how many words you use, saying "this generation" did not actually mean the generation he was speaking to, will never make as much sense...