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I used to think that too, but that would require us to actually experience death. I don't believe I will ever experience death. When I leave this life, I will instantly begin a new life. I will never actually be in a state of death. I will always be alive, either in this body or in a...

Where are you getting this from?

I don't get your point. Are you saying all the OT verses I posted as examples, were incorrectly translated? Are you saying all those people did not "sleep with their fathers"? Did they go to hell, or "Abrahams bosom"? Is that what you're saying?

Death has stopped, at least for the righteous. We no longer move from life to death, but instead from life to life. When I leave this earth, the people staying behind will see a dead body, but that dead body will not be me, because I will have moved onto the next life, which they can not...

None of those examples say that sheol is a place of fire. Those verses are obviously using symbolic language to convey the sorrows of death. "Fire is kindled in mine anger". You think that's a literal fire? Obviously not, because where would this fire be, since "anger" is not a place, but an...

Then why does the KJV use the word hell at all? Why don't they just translate it as the grave every single time? Obviously the translators had an agenda, to scare people into Christianity. It's deceptive.

Huh? I'm not even sure what "resurrect a parable" means. Also, we were talking about the OT and the use of the word Sheol. This conversation started when I said : "Actually, in the OT they all went to the grave (sheol). In other words, they all died, and they "slept in the earth", without...

I'm not sure I understand the question. Dying is not about punishment or redemption. Dying is just dying, and that is what happened to the people before Jesus took away our sin. People died. They went to the grave. That's it.

Here are 35 examples in scripture that tell us that people go to the grave. The grave is a hole in the ground. You must always interpret less clear scripture in light of more clear scripture, not the other way around as you're doing. In this case, the more clear scripture is obviously all...

Grave is the correct word. That's the word that should be used.

Actually, in the OT they all went to the grave (sheol). In other words, they all died, and they "slept in the earth", without consciousness.

The point I'm making should be obvious, that the word Sheol does not mean hell, and that most Bible translations, especially the KJV, mislead people by using the word hell.

Did you know that the KJV translates the word Sheol as "hell" 31 times, and as "the grave" another 31 times? Why so inconsistent? When the Bible speaks of the wicked dying, they translate Sheol as hell, and I'm sure you can guess the reason for that. Yet when the Bible speaks of the righteous...

I find it humorous that anyone would try to convince me that a 2200 km cubed city, reaching over 2000 km into outer space, with only 12 entrances into the entire city, is literally going to happen. Get real man. It's absolutely ridiculous.

So, it sounds like you agree that the Bible does not have to explicitly tell us something is symbolic. So there goes your argument.

This is the kind of attitude that is ruining America today. This idea that you can persecute and destroy the lives of your political rivals or anyone you don't like or disagree with. Instead of contributing to this, as Christians, we should be advocating for the rule of law, fairness and...

You don't? Do you think the seven golden lampstands are literally seven golden lampstands? Do you think Jesus has eyes of fire and feet of bronze? Do you think the four horsemen are literally four guys on horseback?

But you can't explain why that tree is there, and why it's called the tree of life if it does not actually give life. So do you think it's just there for decoration?

It's not a requirement for scripture to explicitly say "this symbolizes that", in order for us to understand symbolism. Do you think Jesus literally has a two edged sword coming out of his mouth? Or do you understand that to be symbolism for the words he speaks?

I know he wasn't speaking of the temple made of stone. That's the whole point. The new temple is not made of stone. Just as the new city is not made of stone.