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  1. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    What's the point of having a literal tree called the tree of life, when the tree doesn't actually give us life? Coincidentally, do you recall Paul comparing us believers, with Jesus as the root, to a tree? Rings a bell, doesn't it? Romans 11, I believe it was. Do you think we are also a...
  2. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    So you understand the symbolism of the body as a temple, but you can not see the symbolism of the new Jerusalem. I still fail to see how you're making the distinctions between literal and symbolic. There just doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to your decision making.
  3. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Can you show me the passage please where the Bible tell us this.
  4. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    You're right, immortality is not based on what one eats, so why then do you suppose there will be a literal physical tree with literal fruit? What would be the point of that? I'm trying to make it obvious to you that this is all symbolism, because if it's not symbolism then it makes no sense...
  5. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    The Bible literally says "the temple he was speaking of was his body", so how can you say that he is not the new temple?
  6. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    I used to say the same thing, but I realize now that I was only saying it because it was the only way I could make sense of things. I had to believe that it referred to the second death, and so I convinced myself that this was true. Now I realize there's a much better explanation, which I've...
  7. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    If you believe this, then you must believe that we do not live on as spirits after death, because dead is dead. Spirits are not dead.
  8. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    I the spirit is alive after "death" then that means the person hasn't really died at all, because that person is the spirit. The person is wherever the consciousness is. And so if the spirit is alive, then the person is alive, not dead. Therefore, your definition of "the dead in Christ" does...
  9. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Sigh. Is it too hard to click the link? You prefer if I post it in here for you? The traditional understanding is that the Temple is the place where heaven and earth meet, indeed this is what Jacob sensed when he woke up from his dream and saw angels going up and down a ladder, between heaven...
  10. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    1. If this tree is to feed trillions of people, how big do you think this tree will be? 2. If we need to eat the fruit from this tree, in order to have life, then why did Jesus die?
  11. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    So you accept some symbolism regarding the city, but not others. How do you decide?
  12. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    It is scriptural, if you understand the symbolism. The new heaven and earth, replaced the old heaven and earth, yes, but the new heaven and earth is Jesus, and the old heaven and earth was the temple building. So there is a new temple, and his name is Jesus. John 2:20-22 20 They replied...
  13. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    The perishable body dies, yes, but we do not spend even a second in the state of death. As Paul says, the body that is sown perishable, it is raised imperishable; So, though we die, we do not actually experience death because we immediately move from one life into the next. So you could say...
  14. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Here's the first one that popped up on a Bing search. It's not hard to find. When Heaven and Earth Passed Away: Everything Changed. Here's another. The Jerusalem Temple and the “End of the World” And here's a stackexchange question and answer about it In the 2nd temple period were either...
  15. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    It does not at all fall apart in Rev 21. Why would a physical temple have to exist in order for my point to have validity? Quite the contrary. The new heaven and new earth replace the old physical temple. That's my whole point. There will never be another physical temple because Jesus is...
  16. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    I don't anybody has entered into the state of death since 70 AD. If a person on earth "dies", they are immediately moved into the next life, which means they never experience death. If you go from one life to the next, there is no time for death. Do you understand what I mean?
  17. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    I'm saying no future resurrection is possible. "Future" being the key word. The resurrection must already have happened, by logic. I'll repeat, Jesús told us that we would never experience death. If that's true, then we can not be resurrected. Ergo, we have already been resurrected. If, on...
  18. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Amusement park entrances are not 700 km apart. And how many trillions of people do you think will live in this giant city? And you think 12 entrances would be enough for all those people? How many entrances does the city of Chicago have?
  19. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    The Jews referred to the temple as "heaven and earth". Besides, if you use logic and common sense, you will see that it would not make sense otherwise. Look at what Jesus said here: Matthew 5:18 for, verily I say to you, till that the heaven and the earth may pass away, one iota or one tittle...
  20. Freedm

    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    It sounds like you're saying Genesis 1 is not true. Is that what you believe?