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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    As to that, as a matter of fact I'm getting ready to do so here shortly. I'm not going to lie though, I had Chatgpt to try and help me flesh out some of my thoughts, in regards to that. And IMO, it did an excellent job. But I will do that later. In the meantime. The Discourse involves 2...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    When Christ died and rose? Or in 70 AD when it was fully destroyed? There can only be one answer here. Why this matters is because of what Matthew 24:15, for one, records. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Why should I take Commentators and Josephus, which is who I mentioned, being who God gave as my teachers, or anyone's teachers for that matter? I have had teachers before. I grew up as a Baptist and attended Baptist churches at the time. But Eschatology was not anything they were teaching. Or...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    I can't make sense out of how Amils interpret some or all of Zechariah 14. Their interpretations don't even remotely resemble what the text is stating. How in the world can those that remain of the nations that came against Jerusalem possibly go up from year to year in a single day? Or how in...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics

    I only use the animal kingdom as an example. That if you are correct that the entire planet is engulfed in flames, why then did God bother creating animals to begin with, and why did He bother preserving them during the flood, if in the end He just gets rid of the animal kingdom altogether? If...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Actually though, some Premils are literalists. I don't know how you can deny that if some Premils insist a literal 3rd temple will be built and what all that involves, not to mention, Ezekiel's temple during the millennium where animal sacrificing has resumed. The point being, you can't possibly...
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    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Except you are twisting what he said and meant, and you know it. He clearly said it is not a 24 hour day. Appearently then, just like me, he too takes the last day to be involving an era a time that begins with the 2nd coming. For some reason you want to twist what he said and meant in order to...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Premils can't be reasoned with but Amils can? If you say so. I can't think of one thing, even things having zero to do with Premil, that you have ever agreed with me about. Meaning where I managed to change your mind about something. Maybe the reason I couldn't change your mind is because it is...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Can you expand on that some? I'm not grasping what you are meaning here? The text indicates one has to overcome first, then they are rewarded with having power over the nations. This likely is a stupid question to be asking you since you don't believe NOSAS is Biblical, but how can one be said...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    That would for sure be stupid, this rod of iron being applied to the saved. Escpecially after 1 Corinthians 15:28 is fulfilled. Keeping in mind, Amils apparently believe that the same day Christ returns 1 Corinthians 15:28 is fulfilled that very same day. Obviously though, no matter how you look...
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    SATAN, NOT BOUND YET

    What exactly are we in disageement about then? I agree God is the one sending these armies. Amils have this involving satan somehow, that satan is attacking the unsaved rather than God doing that. And as to comments about about my church, well I don't have a church I attend nor do I have a...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    So, IOW, as bad as the flood was, God is going to do something even more profound. He has found a loophole since He can't be accused of drowning all flesh if He burns all flesh to a crisp instead. This time around He's going to literally burn the surface of the planet and everyone and everything...
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    SATAN, NOT BOUND YET

    Further proof that you see yourself superior to Premils. Further proof that you are obviously arrogant. But it doesn't matter anyway, I guess. You already have a low opinion of me as a person, a person that you don't even know personally.
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    SATAN, NOT BOUND YET

    If you truly want to understand me, then use the following below as a template since that is basically the way my mind operates when having these discussions. I'm certainly not telling Amils what they believe nor am I acting as if I understand better what they believe than they do themselves...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    Explain the logic in that, that I know that I'm speaking nonsense. If I thought or knew that, why in the world would I be doing that to begin with? What would be my motive for doing that? You must think I need to be in an insane asylum or something. That sounds like something that an insane...
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    SATAN, NOT BOUND YET

    And here you are lying about me again. So guess what? I don't care what you think of me. You are no one important to me, as if I should be bowing down to you or something. When I make posts, I know what I'm meaning. You certainly don't know what I'm meaning. You are not me and you are not God...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    I'm used to getting beat up. But seriously, though it might not seem like it at times, I do respect @Spiritual Israelite. The way I look at it, if he can find fault in the way I reason things at times, I should equally be able to find fault in how he reasons things at times. Because, clearly...
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    The Second Death Destroys Man's False Amill Theory

    In general I agree with that approach and the reasons behind it.
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    SATAN, NOT BOUND YET

    What then does that have to with satan deceiving the nations when he is loosed? If Revelation 9 is involving Revelation 20:7, like some of you appear to be saying, in what way by satan tormenting the unsaved does that then help his cause, that being deceiving the nations so that they can come...
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    SATAN, NOT BOUND YET

    LOL. Why in the world would I need to tell Amils what they believe? Especially if it is not even what they believe. And that I am apparently doing this deliberately. Unlike @Spiritual Israelite where I can at least reason with him to some degree, it is impossible for me to reason with you no...