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Pleaee post scriptures and explain. Thanks.

Please stick to the topic in the OP. This thread is about why or why not there can be a post-trib rapture. If you want to discuss the pre-trib rapture, there are already plenty of threads for that.

That passage about the sands of the seashore describes people who will be devoured by the fire of God not ruled over, and it is described at the end of the 1,000 years. "In number they are like the sand on the seashore. They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of...

It makes no sense that a dwindled population would be refered to as the sands of the seashore. You have tried to dance around that fact and avoid it but it remains.

So why would 1/2 of todays population be described as the sands of the seashore. Doesn't make sense. That Matt 24 passage states my claim that it will be a dwindled population. Actually 1/4 die and 1/3 of what's left over so atleast half of the population, which leads again to my question, why...

That is impossible. There will only be a small amount of people living to go into the kingdom. “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. Matthew 24:22 NIV I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider...

Then how will their numbers be as the sands of the seahshore at the end of the millenium? When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they...

Allegorical passages in scripture are explained in scripture. If a passage is allegorical without an explanation, you can take it and make it say anything you want. That is the root of much error and false teaching.

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 2 Timothy...

Not spiritually discerned. If that were the enterpretation of those verses it would be explained in scripture. So where in scripture does it explain that the mount of Olives splitting in two means what you said? It doesn't because it's the words of man.

It is clearly a prediction of the second coming why are you assuming otherwise? The old testament has end times prophecy in Daniel and other places, why would it need to be written after his first coming? What other time would Christ stand on the Mt. of Olives and split it in two?

First off, that passage in 1Cor does not mean that being spiritually discerned people know non literal passages. It means spiritually discerned people can see when something is spiritual instead of just natural. Secondly, you are wrong about the wheat and the tares. They are growing together...

I'm just someone who reads the Bible and believes it. I don't buy everything that Premil teaches either.

Thank you for clarifying.

You said it Marks. Amils are the first to call the kettle black.

None, I take scripture as plainly stated. You are just putting me in a Premil box when I'm not even the one who brought it up.

You Amil guys were the first to call the opposing view false doctrine. You should then be the first to explain why. That's how it works. I told you I agree with you on that second point. When did I say that I prescribe to everything that Premil teaches? I'm an individual with my own thoughts...

Ok fair enough.

Because it doesn't imply otherwise. It's a bigger assumption to assume it's not on earth when it doesn't say that anywhere in the passage.

I already replied to that post.