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Expansion 1....no negative talk of others Expansion 2 ...no negative talk of myself

God doesn't abandon people Ziggy, people abandon God and then blame him. If only we understood the high honour given us in Jesus incarnation we would see a tenderness in God's dealings with us. We would not doubt that God has our interest at heart. We would not assume that God's arm needs to be...

It's easy to get tangled in unproductive debate. I hope to avoid it when I become conscious it's happening. I am also learning that if folk choose not to hear, I can't make them. Maybe I'm a slow learner?

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What do you think this means Jack? Luke 12:49-53 'I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division...

It is clear then Jack, we don't share the same opinion on these things!

The religious folk didn't get Jesus either. They closed their eyes and ears to understanding and were quick to call him demon possessed. Can you see any similarity between what they called Jesus and what you are quick to call me?

There is no attack on the scriptures Jack. What you perceive as an attack is a challenge to your understanding. Haven't you sacralised your understanding and made it infallible?

Don't we as Christians want to take a feather out of Jesus's cap? We can ask ourselves, how did he defend himself?

It's not complicated LM. Not taking no for an answer only complicates unnecessarily. Now, you're an intelligent person, I'm sure you understand this.

What he should have done or shouldn't have done is subjective and unhelpful to any insight.

I get the impression Brakelite is definitive, particularly in the last comment.....'No, no, no not going there' In your reply, post #241, you are trying to reboot the debate when he has already given a definitive answer.

Just so we are on the same page, here is the later half of Brakelite's #240 post. The underlined are pertinent sections. I think they are self explanatory. 'I was pondering taking up your challenge, and thinking, I'm a gold miner, not a silver miner, but the Lord said in my spirit, go to the...

hmmm, that's always a possibility although I thought I did understand it having read it several times. What do you think I missed?

Perhaps you didn't hear what he stated in the #240 post?

I think Brakelite has given a cogent reply in the later half of post #240

If you could see you would see but now that you say you do see your blindness remains!

The phenomena (if I can call it that) of delusion is locking onto an idea which steers one reality shaping thoughts, feelings and behaviour. Truth is similar in this respect; lock onto it and it will steer your reality. Isn't this why Jesus says, 'you will recognise them by their fruits'? The...

Jack, why do you behave/ respond like a tosser?

If you cannot understand a simple/ ordinary explanation as the one I have given, how will you understand anything pertaining to the reality of Jesus and the principles of the Kingdom of God?