Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. Timtofly

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I was not talking about Jesus. Are you saying Jesus was a sinner and needed the second birth? The OT redeemed came out of their graves in different bodies. That is how they could enter Paradise with Jesus. No one can enter heaven in Adam's flesh and blood. 2 Corinthians 5:1 "For we know...
  2. Timtofly

    Jesus already came, but you did not see him - explained Daniel 7

    I posted Scripture. Seems you prefer human knowledge over God's Word.
  3. Timtofly

    Jesus already came, but you did not see him - explained Daniel 7

    That is why at the Second Coming Jesus is on the earth. Matthew 13 is not about the Millennial Kingdom. "The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:" Jesus never said the Kingdom of heaven was on the earth. What happens on the earth is like the kingdom...
  4. Timtofly

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Of course verse 24 is about the body. You are not your body. You are the soul. The soul is not placed in a grave. Those of the second birth have God's permanent incorruptible physical body in Paradise, when the soul puts on that body after leaving Adam's dead corruptible flesh on earth...
  5. Timtofly

    Jesus already came, but you did not see him - explained Daniel 7

    Matthew 13 concerning the final harvest is post the Second Coming. You are mixing up the kingdoms using Matthew 13. "He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the...
  6. Timtofly

    Jesus already came, but you did not see him - explained Daniel 7

    Ok. The blind can keep leading the blind in that ditch of yours.
  7. Timtofly

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    No, "we all" do not. Some call the trib the last 1994 years. Is that the post trib you refer to? Then yes, after the trib experienced by the church, the Second Coming will end that trib of those days, which was geat, over 1990+ years in duration. If that is not the trib, you are meaning...
  8. Timtofly

    Jesus already came, but you did not see him - explained Daniel 7

    Correct. They refer to what God had already established when Daniel was alive, not some future kingdom a thousand+ years later. Some have stated Revelation 20 ended when Jesus came the first time. Even Jesus in His parables explained that the heavenly kingdom had been around a long time...
  9. Timtofly

    Jesus already came, but you did not see him - explained Daniel 7

    That is your erroneous imagination, along with many early church fathers. Horns are not kingdoms. Horns are human individuals. Try to interpret Scripture correctly for a change. Daniel 7: "And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise." Daniel 8: "The great...
  10. Timtofly

    Jesus already came, but you did not see him - explained Daniel 7

    The point is not about the future. The point is being narrow minded about the past. The kingdom of heaven was set up and available since the Babylonian captivity. It will never go away until creation is no more. The kingdom of heaven will still be in heaven, and unnecessary on the earth...
  11. Timtofly

    Jesus already came, but you did not see him - explained Daniel 7

    Not Titus. His Father took over when 3 horns were plucked off in one year. Don't you accept that God placed the Ceasars of Rome, and took them away like Paul wrote? Romans 13:1-3 "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are...
  12. Timtofly

    First fruits of them that slept(the first resurection)

    Jesus does not bring any dead individual. They have physical bodies and are physically alive, not dead. Lazarus came out of his tomb with a permanent incorruptible physical body. The same body Adam had before he disobeyed God. You can say that Adam had a glorified immortal body, and then...
  13. Timtofly

    All the ones who do not know God, all the wicked and proud will be burned up when Christ returns, OT and NT say this

    Jerusalem was not the only city destroyed. Jerusalem was the last walled city destroyed. The Romans were forcing the revolting Jews out of every walled city, and Jerusalem was the last holdout. The northern 10 tribes had already been destroyed over 700 years earlier. Palestine in the first...
  14. Timtofly

    First fruits of them that slept(the first resurection)

    Jesus does not bring dead bodies with Him, but living bodies. They are all alive because they never tasted death like those in the OT. Do you think the NT Covenant makes one dead, or one alive? Explain why there cannot be physical bodies in heaven one minute, and then a second later they are...
  15. Timtofly

    First fruits of them that slept(the first resurection)

    That is because no one had needed to be resurrected since the Cross. No one needs a resurrection at the rapture/Second Coming because no one in Christ is dead. They are all in heaven and will come with Jesus. Those beheaded are beheaded after the 7th Trumpet, and after the final harvest...
  16. Timtofly

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Their mom and dad. Can you imagine if all those under 20 today decided to worship Satan and decide to take over all the power and authority from their superiors? 2.6 billion people 33% of the world are under 20 years of age. This rebellion is large because it represents those who have not...
  17. Timtofly

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Jesus was the only one to conquer death. No human resurrects themselves. You imply that many will figure out how to resurrect themselves, which is your erroneous implication. Then you say your argument is water tight. Lazarus did not conquer the grave, so your argument does not relate to...
  18. Timtofly

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    A birth is not a resurrection either. So why hijack the meaning of the first resurrection by calling it the second birth? A birth is a brand new experience. The only reason why this spiritual experience is likened to a resurrection is that it is the change of death to life. But the first...
  19. Timtofly

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Those who have had a physical body in Paradise since the first century are ruling as Kings and Priests in heaven. Those of us on earth have not had the first physical resurrection, or we would already be in Paradise. That is the redemption of the body. You all deny that is a reality. You...
  20. Timtofly

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    That is also why they are not martyrs. They were not of the second birth either, when they physically died. The act of being beheaded is their spiritual birth, but they can not enjoy that spiritual birth until they are physically resurrected. John never even says they ever went to heaven...