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  1. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    No They meet the resurrected in the air immediately. The rapture is the gathering of the bride. Dead in Christ along with the living.
  2. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    I told him that also, but you were more eloquent.
  3. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Show me one postrib rapture verse against my 10 or so pretrib rapture verses. Any one of the pretrib rapture verses destroys ANY hope of a supposed postrib rapture theory. Try and find a verse supporting your view.
  4. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    The Gt is 2 parts. That is a no brainer. In school the second semester is not the first, but neither cancels out the other. In pregnancy , the first trimester is not the third, and never cancels the third. Have 2 timeframes in the gt does not remove the length of it. You are...once...
  5. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    When it says "they meet the Lord in the air ", what do you do with that?
  6. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Only half the church is raptured. According to Jesus.
  7. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Amen the pretrib rapture doctrine 100% believes that and it fits like a glove.
  8. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    When it says "ALL TAKE THE MARK every man woman and child" where are you in that dynamic??? You either take it and ,as you say , "go through the trib" or you refuse it and get martyred. So how on earth is that postrib doctrine e even possible???? When it says that power is given to the...
  9. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Nope. The group meets in the air. Both the dead in Christ, and those raptured alive. ALL go to heaven. The 2 harvests, ( barley &wheat ) are the rapture and later the innumerable number beheaded by the AC. (After the innumerable number harvest, the TIMES OF THE GENTILES ( the church) is...
  10. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Yes. Mr light changes that to what postribbers believe. He mixes doctrines and has created a unique doctrine. I have never, in over 30 years of debate , seen his doctrine. It is based on "word definition". But once things he formulated get off, he makes the rest of the events fit. They do not...
  11. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    QUOTE " when the Lord comes again for the second harvest which is the Jews from the earth and the Church from heaven...........Jesus will remain in the clouds. He will send His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth." Re read it. No angels gathering the elect Jews in Rev 14:14 In...
  12. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Acts 1 has Jesus departing without any setting of power and great glory. The rapture is the setting of the Acts 1 departure. Exactly like the bible says. Rev 19 is The only place where Jesus returns in power and great glory Rapture and Acts 1 departure are the same setting. Rev 14:14 has zero...
  13. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    That is likely for sure
  14. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Wow Super early! I usually get 6 hours then I am good. Wake up around 5,6, or 7am
  15. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Quote "It boggles my mind that you think Jesus returning with the armies of heaven to smite the nations has anything whatsoever to do with Jesus sending His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. Nothing in common whatsoever. Revelation 19 is Jesus coming on the Day of the Lord to...
  16. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    You don't know what you are reading. You say the 6th seal Jesus comes in power and great glory...then the wrath.( nope nope nope) Read what it says. Not what you insert and theorize. IT SAYS AFTER the sixth seal the Jews are marked in their foreheads. So.....you now have Jesus gathering the...
  17. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Sorry Typo on my part. It should read "Nothing in revelation 14:14 fits the sixth seal"
  18. rebuilder 454

    The Coming Rapture

    Up early this am?
  19. rebuilder 454

    A bit of a mess in the White House.

    I have no idea what you are getting at , or why triump 1300 strangely agreed with you.
  20. rebuilder 454

    A bit of a mess in the White House.

    Yawn WE ALL KNOW THAT. NOBODY IS WORSHIPPING TRUMP. THE REASON YOU DO THAT REFRAMING OF EVERYTHING IS BECAUSE THE TDS HAS SUCH A GRIP ON YOU. CNN is pure lies And you are glued to every imperfection of Trump.