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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    People are not given faith. It is acquired. For some it takes lots of time and energy. For others, such as some of us who were raised in a Christian home, it can come quite easily. Rom 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ. And in the verses you are...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    The meaning of the word "foreknowledge" and related words don't need any adjustment depending on context. It is fundamentally an absolute character trait of God. It is His omniscience applied to the future.
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    The important thing to understand relative to the foreknowledge in Romans 6:29 is that God foreknew those who love God (Rom 8:28). Verses 29 and 39 then proceed to explain what are the "all things" in verse 28 that work together for good for those who love God.
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Yes of course. I believe that the crucifixion of Jesus was based, at least in part, upon God's foreknowledge of what the scribes, pharisees, Judas, and Pontius Pilate would do. So while the crucifixion was predestined, it was not necessary that what the scribes, pharisees, Judas and Pontius...
  5. J

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Quite the opposite. Justification emanates from faith. Rom_3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Rom_5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    God foreknew that Judas would betray Jesus Christ. So according to you Judas was predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ. I really don't think that was what Paul was saying at all.
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    But even those whom Jesus claims to never knew were foreknown by God; thus directly countering your contention of changing the meaning of the word foreknow.
  8. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Yes, we can do that too. But that is not what you are doing. You are changing the very definition of the word. There is no metaphor in your redefinition of words.
  9. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    You just did it again.
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    You are doing what Calvinists always do. They have to redefine the meaning of words, otherwise, their theology, particularly their soteriology, makes no sense; that is the case with the whole concept of TULIP. Foreknowledge is not causative. Foreknowing and predestining are two entirely...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Zwingliism at its worst.
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    All of that sounds okay. However you ignore what came before. Yes, God foreknows ~cognitively knows beforehand~everyone and everything. But from verse 28 it is apparent that in verse 29 he is referring to "those who love God". It is they, those who love God, who in verse 28 Paul says are...
  13. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    I get it. Just another of Paul's many mistakes.
  14. J

    God Created All Humanity When He Created Adam

    the 1st world earth age?? this 2nd world earth age?? I have no idea what you are talking about. I think I don't even want to know what you are talking about. The discussion of "the creation" in Romans 8:18-25 is mankind. I hate to break it to you, but my dog is not "waiting with eager...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Being one of God's elect depends upon God's foreknowledge of the believer who is saved which is by grace through faith. You are not an apostle. Besides He chose Judas. Israel was God's chosen. To be chosen is to be an elect. All Israel were chosen. Not all Israel were saved. Clearly there...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    There is only one baptism (Eph 4:5). There is one baptism in water with two basic objectives. One is the forgiveness of sin, i.e.., Justification, the other is the gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit which I argue is one and the same as baptism in/with/by the Holy Spirit. "raised with him...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    .....and repenting and being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    You are of course correct. My bad. But salvation does depend upon the individual's will. He has free will to believe or disbelieve. God's will for whom He will save has been established and the conditions laid down in the form of a promise. Even in cases of the apostles. They had the...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Did someone else force you to repent? I don't think so. No, you would be trusting in God to do as He has promised. And He has promised that in baptism in the name of Jesus Christ He would forgive your sins and give you the gift (the indwelling) of the Holy Spirit. Baptism is the neither the...
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    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Romans 9 is so often misquoted as you have here. The mercy and compassion that is spoken of in verse 16 is not about salvation. It is about God's using them for His service here in this life. We know that from the very next verse where Paul says, 'For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this...