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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    We are saved by grace alone. Amen. And because we are saved by Christs love we need it flowing through our lives or we are lost. In a world contaminated by hurt, pain, bitterness, confusion, revenge, loneliness, we can only know the Kingdom by walking in it. One can build a model that...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Amen sister. The more the Lord changes me the more I see it is our belief and stubbornness that convinces us we cannot change or be different. We need each day something to bring us joy, a lighter step, that makes sense of things that helps us connect. Jesus does this and sharing His good news...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Is a debate only valid if one agrees first the terms over which the debate is done? A pharisees problem was not doing things for show, that was merely the failure to be approved of by God, in terms of reward. The show is reward enough. No do charitable work in secret, and the Lord will reward...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Self righteousness is a big term. I have read so many posts accusing people of being self righteous, which is an observation. But is it anything more than an accusation of emotional intent without any content? Is self righteousness only one sin among many, rather than a whole theological...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    I like the idea we share what we see in the current situation and grow with this. Jesus described people led by the Spirit like this The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    You raise some very interesting points about sins and consequences. Those who wish to disregard behaviour as part of our relationship with Christ want simply to make everything permissible. If I can pray for forgiveness for minor sins, and they be forgiven, then holding all sins are forgiven...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Hi mailmandan, What is sinless perfection? I ask because it strikes me you have to agree what sin is before one can say whether you can be without it or not, or even does sinless and perfection go together. Let me elaborate. Sin in the sense Pharoah used it 27 Then Pharaoh summoned Moses...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    You recognize me...does this change things or am I easier to predict? A relative said to me once that its impossible to change people. And they are right, when someone is hidden from themselves under layers of fake responses and pretend positions. I like forums because we can try out new...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    What you are referring to is too involved for me to understand. What I have learnt from people in chaos and turmoil is to set simple boundaries, make every interaction simple and consistent and not to get distracted into speculation or over analysis. Put simply sowing simple good approaches...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    I saw something the other day, which changed my ideas on this. Jesus and the Father have defences of themselves, but choose to open up and let the hurts to go by and for love, grace and forgiveness to replace them. What is strange to me in life is being hurt is ok, denying the hurt actually...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    I see your point. It also makes me think of something else. It is learnt emotional behaviour patterns and conclusions. Anger is a survival response to a real threat. It is the fight or flight response, which we all need and have, and which is not murdering someone or a failure but something...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Hi mailmandan, I see your point about fear, and what often binds some believers into a list version of approval by God, which is devoid of love, understanding, care, empathy, closeness, meeting loneliness with peace and joy, fear with acceptance. What has struck me most recently is emotions do...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    "born again by the Spirit" - Do we know who truly are born of the Spirit from the outside? This was the question that even the apostles wondered at. 1. Gentiles anointed with the gifts of the Spirit just as they had been a Pentecost. 2. The dilemma of someone who has tasted the Holy Spirit...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    This is a straw man suggestion. Anger is a response to a threat. Jesus's life was threatened by Pontious Pilot yet he laid it down without anger. So yes in Christ we can begin to learn how to be angry at the right things and let others go, because we are children of our Father. Resentment...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    How did Stephen enter heaven? Stephen realised the pharisees and rulers when faced with Jesus preaching the Kingdom, dying and rising again meant nothing to them, the whole temple and following the law was meaningless. Jesus had declared the apostles clean because of the cross? No, because of...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    So many believers do not see the story of Jonah as an emotional story of life, God and sin. Jonah knew God loved Nineveh and would forgive them if they repented, but Jonah wanted none of that they should perish. Oppps. Jonah would sacrifice his life for standing against the Lords ways, but he...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    you "MISS THE MARK" This way of talking about life is a legalists paradise. As individuals everything is rules based with measures, and people get blown away when they fail on different points, but accepted when they pass. It is a dry desert of list makers and list givers. As humans we live...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Standing in the middle. The Lord chose some strange people to be our godly examples Moses - who could not talk well Samson - who was smitten by Delilah David - who had blood lust and fell for Bathsheba Abraham - who gave up on the promise and had Ishmael These were not legalists but people...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    "To all legalists. we are merciless" One of the traits of Jesus is mercy. Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. Matt 5:7 Jesus describes the parable of the merciful ruler who forgives a servant all their debt, while the servant goes off and throws another servant in prison...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    How would you describe the cause of sin in man? And how would you say we are going to be perfect with Christ on the new earth? I ask simply because how these questions are answered hang salvation, free will, communion with the Lord, the hope for fellowship among believers, why God answers...