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  1. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You may not read Scofield — but you’re still preaching his system and heresy. Two peoples of God. Two gospels. Law returning in the millennium. Animal sacrifices after the Cross. That’s pure dispensational theology, whether you learned it from Scofield’s Bible, a pulpit trained by Dallas...
  2. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You say “I don’t say it scripture does.” No — Scofield says it, and you’re just repeating it. Let’s be clear: Scripture never says Jesus returns to re-establish the Law, reinstate animal sacrifices, or preach a Mosaic system from a physical throne. What it does say is this: “We have been...
  3. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    So your argument is that “gathering together in one” somehow proves there are two peoples of God? That’s backwards logic. The whole point of Ephesians 1:10 and Colossians 1:20 is that God is uniting everything — heaven and earth — under Christ. Not preserving division. Not organizing two...
  4. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    So let me get this straight: According to you, after Jesus offers the perfect, once-for-all sacrifice, He returns to Earth to… preach the Law again? Set up animal sacrifices in a rebuilt temple? Celebrate feast days that were shadows of His completed work? That’s not the Millennial Kingdom —...
  5. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You’ve now created not just two Israels, but two churches, two reconciliations, and apparently two Gospels — one for earth and one for heaven? That’s not theology. That’s theological schizophrenia — the kind that splits God’s people, God’s plan, and God’s Gospel into disconnected fragments...
  6. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    So now you're claiming Paul persecuted a different church — a pre-Pauline “Jewish-only church” that somehow wasn’t the Body of Christ? That’s not exegesis. That’s Scofield fanfiction. Paul says clearly: “Christ is the head of the body, the Church.” (Colossians 1:18) And again: “There is one...
  7. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Now you’re inventing two churches to protect your theology? That’s not rightly dividing the word — that’s butchering the Gospel of Christ. There’s no such thing in Scripture as a “Jewish church under Jesus and the Twelve” and a “Gentile church under Paul.” That’s pure Scofield fiction. The New...
  8. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You say the Church is not the Israel of God — that it’s “believing Israel.” That’s double-speak. You’ve just admitted my point without realizing it. Paul doesn’t say “believing Israel.” He says: There is neither Jew nor Greek… you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you...
  9. The Gospel of Christ

    Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

    You’re confusing covenant fulfillment with national favoritism. That’s your theology — not Paul’s. Romans 11 doesn’t say Israel stays separate forever — it says some were broken off in unbelief, and others were grafted in by faith. Paul’s entire argument is about one tree, not two. And no, the...
  10. The Gospel of Christ

    Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

    So in other words, you still can’t refute what I actually said using Scripture. Got it. You’ve resorted to name-calling and pseudo-intellectual insults because you’ve run out of verses. Thanks for confirming that.
  11. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Scofield had to make Christians buy into a pre-trib rapture to pull off the biggest theological con job in Church history—convincing them that the Body of Christ isn't Israel. That was the linchpin. If believers understood that they are the fulfillment of God's covenant—they are the seed of...
  12. The Gospel of Christ

    Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

    Theologically refute my statement then. Using the Gospel, not your feelings.
  13. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Jesus Christ literally tells you word for word - “As in the days of Noah… they knew not until the flood came and took them all away. So shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.” Who got taken in the flood? The wicked. Who was left behind? Noah — the righteous. “As in the days of Noah… they...
  14. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Scofieldism isn’t just error — it’s a direct contradiction of Jesus, Paul, and the early Church. Jesus returns once. The trumpet sounds once. The resurrection happens once. And if you miss it — there is no sequel. Is the rapture before the tribulation? No Not in the words of Jesus. Not in the...
  15. The Gospel of Christ

    Has "Christian Forums" become a Catholic site?

    Maybe you haven't heard.. Anyone even acknowledging that Isreal is a land in the Middle East is openly denying that Jesus is the Messiah and that His covenant was fulfilled. Because if the promise was about dirt — and not fulfilled in Christ — then the cross meant nothing. Might want to get your...
  16. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Let’s be very clear, for the sake of lurkers and clarity: 1. Jesus said “taken” means judged. “The flood came and took them all away. So shall the coming of the Son of Man be.” (Matt 24:39) Not blessed. Not raptured. Taken = Judged. And who was left behind? Noah. 2. Paul says the resurrection...
  17. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    So now you're trying to tell me that when Paul says the mystery was "hidden from ages and generations," that means Jesus couldn’t possibly speak of it in any form? Let me help lurkers reading this what a mystery revealed actually means: It doesn’t mean God never hinted at it. It means He...
  18. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    “The elect in Matthew can’t be the Church, because the Church didn’t exist yet.” “Paul’s gathering was a mystery, so Jesus couldn’t have talked about it.” So let me get this straight: You’re saying Jesus Christ — the eternal Word made flesh — couldn’t reference the Church… because the Church...
  19. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Now we’ve moved the Scofield goalposts again. You're admitting the wicked were taken in the flood — but now claiming that when Jesus references it, He suddenly means something totally different by “taken”? That’s not exegesis. That’s theological fraud. Jesus said: “The flood came and took...
  20. The Gospel of Christ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Ah, there it is — the last refuge of Scofieldian desperation: “But our gathering is a mystery, so it can’t be in Matthew!” Translation: “If Jesus said it, it must not apply to us.” Let me break this down: Yes, Paul calls the resurrection/rapture a “mystery” in 1 Corinthians 15 — meaning it...