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Now you’re admitting that the Church is “the elect”? Great — we’re finally getting somewhere. Because in Matthew 24, Jesus says: “Immediately after the tribulation… He shall gather together His elect…” — Matthew 24:29–31 You just admitted the Church is called the elect. But now you're playing...

So now you’re saying the ones who are “taken” are the righteous? The believing Jews? Really? Let’s read it again — slowly: “As it was in the days of Noah, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” — Matthew 24:37 Jesus doesn’t leave it vague — He defines the comparison: “And [they]...

You're parroting classic Scofield Dispensationalism — the idea that Matthew 24 is “only for the Jews,” that the “elect” can’t be the Church, and that Jesus was somehow not talking to His own disciples as representatives of the coming Church age. One step at a time.. Jesus — speaking directly...

“Replacement theology” is a Dispensationalist slur — designed to smear the original Christian belief that the Church is the continuation and fulfillment of God’s covenant people. Not a replacement, but a completion. The Church doesn’t replace Israel — it is Israel. (And any Christian who...

You've just released a whole lot of Scofield smoke and Darby dust for one thread — but let’s cut straight through it with a theological blowtorch. You accuse me of “omitting” the so-called pre-trib rapture verses? I didn’t omit them — they don’t exist. Not one verse describes a secret coming of...

The new Fallen-Angel-worshipper has been elected to reign over the ignorant, blinded and misled. Yay.

Yes — and who is Jesus talking about in that passage? “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted... ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.”
— Matthew 24:9 He’s talking to His disciples — not the Sanhedrin. Not the Knesset and not a future secular state.
 This tribulation...

2 Thessalonians 2:1–3 (KJV) “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled… as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come...

There's so much dispensationalist misinformation and nonsense in this thread its staggering.. The blind leading the blind.. Actually, Jesus didn’t teach a pre-trib rapture — He refuted it directly. Let’s start with what Jesus Himself said: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days… then...

The early Church existed from the moment the Holy Spirit fell at Pentecost (Acts 2). Paul's letters were written between roughly 50–67 AD and were circulating among the churches while the apostles were still alive — that’s historical and biblical fact (see Colossians 4:16, 2 Peter 3:15–16). And...

You're splitting what Paul clearly connects. 2 Thessalonians 2:1 says, "concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together unto him" — Paul is addressing both the return of Christ and the rapture in the same breath. Then in verse 3, he says “that day shall not come...

You don’t build doctrine by what the Bible doesn’t say. You build it on what it does say — and it says the elect are gathered after the tribulation (Matthew 24:29–31), the Antichrist is revealed before the Day of Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:3), and the resurrection happens at the last trumpet (1...

Paul absolutely revealed the mystery of the rapture — but he never said it happens before the tribulation. The “day of Christ” in 2 Thessalonians 2:2 is the same climactic return Paul describes in 1 Thessalonians 4:16–17 — the return of Jesus, the resurrection of the dead, and our gathering to...

Scripture never says the rapture happens before the tribulation. That idea came from Darby and Scofield — not Jesus, not Paul, and not the early Church. Jesus said, "Immediately after the tribulation… he shall gather his elect from the four winds" (Matthew 24:29–31). That’s not hidden, secret...

I’m not even responding for me anymore. I’m responding for your sake — and for anyone else reading this thread who might actually believe that mockery replaces theology. You’ve gone from dodging Scripture to openly mocking mental health — and that’s not just immature, it’s revealing. You’ve got...

Most sane people reading this thread think that you're typing in a rubber room right now. Get help.

Please—get help. It’s out there. It’s available. Pick up the phone. Talk to someone. You’re not well, and deep down, you know it. There’s still time to come back to reality. Just do it.

You're like a broken record in each forum thread so I'll copy/paste myself.. When you can’t refute Scripture, can’t answer history, and can’t defend the Christ-rejecting regime you blindly support… you just scream “Nazi.” I’m not a skinhead. I’m not a racist. I’m not part of any white...

Ah, there it is—the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt: When you can’t refute Scripture, can’t answer history, and can’t defend the Christ-rejecting regime you blindly support… you just scream “Nazi.” I’m not a skinhead. I’m not a racist. I’m not part of any white supremacist cult—and...

No, what offends you isn’t my tone—it’s the truth. You threw out vague accusations, historical revisionism, and subtle undermining of the New Testament—and I responded with Scripture, history, and facts. That’s not casting aspersions. That’s refuting error, which I’ll continue to do without...