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Like I said,,,we agree re the atonement. But MUST you add all those little side verses that would each require a complete reply? This makes it very difficult to speak to you. IF the Father h as to give persons,,,there is NO NEED for any atoning sacrifice. If Calvinism is correct,,,Jesus NEVER...

Because my dear Ritajanice SOME DOCTRINE IS WRONG. And INCORRECT DOCTRINE should NEVER be accepted by orthodox Christians. Go find out what that means and then come back and report. JESUS IS GOD. It's no mystery dear Ritajanice. And if you DO NOT BELIEVE that Jesus is God,,, you are not...

I Reading the early fathers is good. This is what I do. I don't need to go beyond what the prenicene fathers wrote..it's all there. It's not easy to explain Jesus or the Trinity - they battled with it. I said I admired you for this...so I'll repeat that. The above is Christian theology...

KUWN Why don't you learn how to do what I'm doing right now so your replies are easier for YOU and easier for the reader? So if we have different opinions HOW do I know who is right? Is OSAS right or is it wrong? Is there a sure-fire way to know? John the baptist baptized in the Name of the...

I can't argue with you Christo. The CC has many good things about it.... But it is also afraid to preach in the method you've stated above. Does it make a difference? I'm not sure and I'll discuss with you if you wish to, but I'll tell you this... in all the time I've been a born again...

Right. But it's for ME...it's personal. It's not supposed to be used for teaching. Nobody I know got knocked down from a horse and spoke to Jesus. We have to be careful about this. Can't remember if I posted a list of some men that heard from God...it includes Muhammad. Paul did not have what...

Here's my dilemma Scott: I have no idea what your truth is....I don't have a lot of time to watch many videos and, as I've said before to you, I wish you would just state your case...but OK. I WOULD like to understand what this TIME NO LONGER is and the REVEALING OF ALL TRUTH. Don't we have all...

Jesus ain't my brother Wrangler.... He's my GOD. And you're still worshipping a man. Post some.

I think you understood my comment Rich. I think the time for debating whether or not Jesus is God is over. I think that those that believe Jesus is NOT GOD...should remove the designation of Christian from their avatar, and from the rest of their daily lives. You see, this is not a matter that...

Take it how you wish to take it APAK. It's the truth. You see Elon already has TESLA set up and going. IF YOU want to join TESLA,,,you'll have to be abiding by the conditions and rules that are already existing....you will NOT be able to establish your own. That's if you want to be a part of...

You seem to ask everyone how they could not know these things. Perhaps it is YOU that does not know things. And your reply that JESUS IS THE LAST ADAM is definitive proof that you're not knowledgeable in either the language of the bible OR general language that is used every day. JESUS IS THE...

How do I not know what Pierac? How do YOU know is what I asked YOU. And you're answer is insufficient. Do you REALLY think that everything we can know about what the Apostles did is in the book of Acts? John 21:25 25And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which if they were...

I got this Scott and will go through it when I have some time to spend here. Maybe we'll do a little bible study together? I really appreciate it! Later

Sorry Apak....left out a tiny little word: NOT I went back and fixed it. I know you didn't say this. My mind is not the subject here Apak. Scholars know about church history and how that history came about. Even Wikipedia could be helpful to those on these forums that REFUSE to study any...

Well, you never asked ME this question. hmmx1:

Whoa! You hear from God? I do believe that's known as a PERSONAL REVELATION and not even to be repeated to others. Here are some others that had PERSONAL REVELATION: MUHAMMAD JOHN RUSSELL JOHN CALVIN AND OTHERS JOSEPH SMITH And every other heretical person that destroyed the teachings of Jesus.

Great thread Scott. I'm encountering some "Christians" on this here forum (and others) that don't even believe Jesus is God. Should we let that go and move on to other stuff? So do YOU have all the truth? And HOW do you think we could possibly come to know the truth? Surely Jesus left us a way...

But, my dear man, that is NOT what being a Christian means. I'll repeat once again: Christianity was around way before you were W. About 2 thousand years worth. IF you wish to be defined as Christian then you MUST adhere to CHRISTIAN TEACHINGS... NOT the teachings of some man...whatever his...

That's because, Wrangler, you don't GET what I'm asking. What I've been stating is that Jesus CANNOT be a man. A man who thinks He's God is one of the following: 1. A liar 2. A lunatic I do believe I posted Mark 14:60-64 60The high priest stood up and came forward and questioned Jesus...

Big problem with your statement KUWN. Everyone on the forum believes something different about Jesus. Whom shall we believe? How does 2 Peter 1:3 prove that everything we know has to come straight out of the bible? How does the bible teach us to baptize? I'm on another thread and most on there...