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  1. GodsGrace

    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    I don't know what you believed before and I don't understand what you believe now. The Trinity does not change.... but persons change. I THINK what you mean is that Jesus came into being 2 thousand years ago. But the NT teaches that He existed even before....why not just accept what the...
  2. GodsGrace

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Just a quick word Wrangler.... Notice the conversation you're having with another member right now. She has her very own ideas and so do you. Who are we to trust? YOU HER Some other member out there that believes THEY have it right? IF we all start having our own belief system...WHAT WILL...
  3. GodsGrace

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Don't know about any knife. Here's what I know: JESUS said to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Matthew 28:19... Where does it state differently? Immersion...good.
  4. GodsGrace

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Wonderfully composed posts.... nice combination of text sizing and coloring...very interesting I'm sure. Just want to ask: HOW do YOU know HOW Christians were baptized in the early church?
  5. GodsGrace

    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Then H,,,,I'm very confused. You stated in a post to me that you want to learn all about the different explanations of the Trinity, or something similar, so you could fight for the Christian faith and uphold it. NOW you tell me that The Son didn't always exist and neither did the Holy Spirit...
  6. GodsGrace

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Where does it state that God established His church when He died on the cross? Jesus established His church at the Last Supper when He told the Apostles to remember Him. He established His church when He gave the Great Commandment to go out and preach/teach all nations and to baptize. All...
  7. GodsGrace

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Elected....you just greektized 1 John 2:2 and admitted that world is kosmos. So what does kosmos mean? When it's used, it means THE WHOLE WORLD. The following is from Strong's...which I don't use because I just go to a bible of a different language that is closer to the Greek. But it also...
  8. GodsGrace

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Interesting point Titus! Of course no reformed person will ever agree with you. It's good to read the bible without any preconceived doctrine or that doctrine is what will be read into scripture. Jesus died for the sins of the whole world....simply just what John says. John the Apostle, that...
  9. GodsGrace

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Interesting Titus! But it's going to have to wait till after dinner....a couple of hours.
  10. GodsGrace

    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    Yes. I agree that, at some time, Jesus emanated into a human being. This doesn't mean that He BEGAN existing at this time. (when He was conceived by Mary). Jesus ALWAYS existed, just as God has always existed. It's just that Jesus was the Son,,,the 2nd Person of the Trinity from the...
  11. GodsGrace

    Is Sound Doctrine Essential for Salvation?

    Maybe after 40 years I just see a lot of detail.... You shouldn't leave this thread because of me.... You have a nice day too.
  12. GodsGrace

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Ditto Pinseeker. It's not that I don't like you....you just make me a bit nervous... <smile> GHts
  13. GodsGrace

    Western Trinitarians, do not follow the early church teaching.

    What does begotten mean? OK,,,I could go with the word emanate. The idea is that Jesus was, in some way, INSIDE God, but then He came out....emanated from God. I vote to change the word BEGOTTEN to EMANATE ! I think begotten is very misunderstood in the English language. Actually, with God...
  14. GodsGrace

    HOW ARE WE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE?

    Agreed RD I'd say that God made us in His image mentally, as you've said, socially and morally. Attributes from all 3 aspects have been passed on to us. He also will give to us a new spirit that will allow us to communicate with Him, your words exactly. This spirit He gives to us will affect...
  15. GodsGrace

    The Doctrines of Grace

    I'm not speaking about the Papacy. Do you believe there was an earthly church/institution shortly after Jesus returned to heaven? Matthew 16:18 Jesus said: ....upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. Which church do you believe Jesus was referring...
  16. GodsGrace

    HOW ARE WE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE?

    I really doubt that Jesus raised the dead in every village He visited. Luke does state on the particular day in Luke 4:38-41, which you posted, that the sick were brought to Jesus and He healed them all. The story of the paralytic man was always very interesting to me. First Jesus told him...
  17. GodsGrace

    Is Sound Doctrine Essential for Salvation?

    I usually agree with you QT, but are you saying that if we get one doctrine wrong we won't be saved?
  18. GodsGrace

    Is Sound Doctrine Essential for Salvation?

    I have often said that I know persons that have never read the bible and, possibly, never heard the actual gospel message, and yet they are saved. And handicapped persons have a special place in God's heart. I have an autustic granddaughter. And I like to use the word handicap....everyone wants...
  19. GodsGrace

    Is Sound Doctrine Essential for Salvation?

    Verily, I guess you forgot to read my post no. 10. I specifically reconciled two seemingly conflicting verses for you to show that the bible CANNOT contradict itself. And your reply is that the bible can contradict itself? I do hope you reach that place of being able to cross the T's and dot the...
  20. GodsGrace

    Is Sound Doctrine Essential for Salvation?

    In John 12:32 Jesus stated that HE will DRAW ALL MEN to Himself. You say that the Father draws all men to Himself. This would require another pit stop to explain. It would be interesting to hear your interpretation, but this is not the place. And yet you continue posting verses that CAUSE...