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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Why resort to childish behavior? Once again, you did not read my response. Let me be clear: The time we receive our crown coincides with the epiphany (coming/appearance) of Christ when he becomes King of all Kingdoms. That is at the 7th trumpet and no other time. I could same the same to you...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    No, it really doesnt. Obviously, you don't understand how Greek works. So, I will post this for your edification. The older authorities here—instead of the preposition “at”—read “and.” The rendering then would be: “I charge thee in the sight of God and Jesus Christ, who will judge quick and...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I really wish you’d stop guessing and read what you write. There is only 1 more coming. That’s it. There’s no 3rd advent. He leaves heaven when it’s the time to restore all things. At that time will be the resurrection of the dead first at the last day. Afterward, while in the clouds with the...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Gill explained the symbolism behind it and his words reflect his opinion that it was not literal. I didn’t quote the entire passage because I didn’t want to put up a wall of text and drowned out discussion. I find it quite odd, a literal city descending. Considering the vision was given in the...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    If you recognize that the harlot isn’t a literal city, why is its contrasting city literal? You must also believe the tree of life is going to be literally sitting in the city then too. What do you think of this? And showed me that great city; which is no other than the church, the bride, the...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    We are the city. Just as the harlot isn’t a physical city. A city was deemed female and identified with the people that dwelt there. Do you think the harlot is 1 city in the world that rides a beast?
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    The second coming is at his appearing and kingdom per 2Tim 4:1 His kingdom has not come at the 6th seal. The only thing immediate after the tribulation of those days is the 6th seal opened. The coming of Christ is not said to be immediate after the 6th seal. It only says then shall appear the...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    And there being no more sea is literal, the dragon is literal, the locusts are literal, the harlot is literal, the stars falling from outer space to earth is literal and a floating city with streets of gold is literal. Ever hear of a literal floating city called a bride of Christ?
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    Yeah, and angels and each gate is 1 pearl and each wall has 12 foundations…hint hint
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I think @The Light mistakes "the sign of the son of man" in Matthew 24 as the coming of Christ. I've explained to him before, a sign is not the same as the manifestation. sémeion: a sign Usage: a sign, miracle, indication, mark, token. HELPS Word-studies 4592 sēmeíon – a sign (typically...
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    I'm not misunderstanding the verse at all. I'm aware the Jews following Christ at that time did not yet understand that Christ was sent not only for them, but for the world. And knowing that, it doesn't change who was born from a physical descendant of a Jew vs. someone from another tribe. The...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib 2

    But they are quick to say: But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. They use that verse from Matthew 24, a chapter they say is for Jews, yet many of them use it to suggest a pre-TB rapture of immanence. They acknowledge it has to do with the...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    It is not a literal city. Ive never heard anyone even suggest that. Not today and not in any text since 100 AD
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    I don't know if you meant to word it that way, but that is incorrect. Perhaps your understanding of it though is correct and I am misinterpreting your words. Before you get defensive, let me explain why. The sheep are children of God. Not Jew and Gentile. For there is no difference between Jew...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The word says Heaven must receive him UNTIL. If that were true, it could not say "must recieve him Until" which it does.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Look at the context and stop guessing and contorting scripture. Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 21Whom the...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    There is much opinion in this statement without posted scriptural fact. Opinions without scripture that says otherwise are wasted. Clouds without water. Do you know the pattern in heaven that Moses was shown? Do you know the elders sit on 24 thrones and the 12 disciples sit on 12, not 24...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The heavens must receive him UNTIL the restitution which interpreted is restoration of all things. How can he leave heaven, where he is now, if God says he can’t until such a time? Is God a liar? No. Is the restoration of all things before the tribulation or after? After. Then how can a...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I'm not sure what you are referring to against what I said. But for clarification, ONLY the living are at the harpazo. The dead rise first at the resurrection. Then sometime afterwards, the living will meet them in the air at the harpazo. The resurrection happens on the last day when the...