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    I suspect that the "Great White Throne Judgment" as described in Revelation is only imagery rather than an event

    I take it to be so. John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. I think it's clear, the judgment will be held on the last day. And we are told the resurrection will happen on the...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Complaining is not becoming of a Christian attitude. Can’t we talk as men of God? Your eschatology is based upon dispensationalism. That idea is grounded in separation. I’m not going to debate all the differences here and go off topic, but there’s a fundamental difference between what Paul said...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I’ve addressed it plenty of time in scripture. You ignore it as well as you ignore posting scripture to rebuke it. Who are my teachers? The HS is my guide and teacher that brings things to remembrance. You keep saying omit and reflect but between you and I, I’ve demonstrated what is said...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Where did I say I’m better than you? I am a sinner. I’m not better than anyone. I asked you to bridle your tongue. You’re full of hate and it’s hurting your testimony. You should take that in love, not in anger. Fix those things to grow. We should help each other. I told you before, Acts...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I would hope you’d be more mature about this. Omitting the time frame of Noah and Lot? I responded at post #432. Perhaps you missed it. Omitted the time frame of the rapture by Jesus? 2 Tim 4:1, Isa 25:8, Rev 11:18, 2Thess 2:1-4 Take a pick. They are all at the 7th trumpet All rapture verses...
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    2 Tim 4:1 proves our change happens at Christ appearing in his Kingdom. It doesn't become his Kingdom till the 7th trumpet. And Paul quotes Isaiah 25:8 from 1 Cor 15:54. In the Isaiah passage, that event happens "In this mountain". That Kingdom when Christ begins to reign over the nations.
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    True statement. But he is only mentioning one thing I had said that he doesn't like because it wont fit with his eschatology. That is fine. I posted before this to him and I respond to that question. The wedding feast, the time of the feast, the door closing, etc etc etc. Disagreements are ok...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    1. You accuse without scripture. I post scripture and commentaries. 2. You reply with imaginative insults. I will still speak to you in love. 3. You can have an opinion. But it is just an opinion if not backed up with scripture. The Bible speaks of only 1 more coming. 1 more descending from...
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    JESUS IS COMING

    Where are you referring to the 7th trumpet In Isaiah 24? Verse 23 because he reigns? Isaiah 25:8 makes it clear. The resurrection happens “in this mountain”. And the only mountain of God that will cover the whole earth ( Daniel 7) is his kingdom at the 7th trumpet.
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    Where will you spend eternity?

    Receive my spirit is not the same as being promised paradise. You’re making an assumption. We are not promised heaven. Paul didn’t teach it and Christ didn’t say it. There is not one verse that mentions it. It would be nice if it did, but it doesn’t exist. Christ is going to prepare a place...
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    JESUS IS COMING

    He's coming, but not till an apostasy happens first and the man is sin is revealed.
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    Where will you spend eternity?

    No. We are never promised heaven. We are only promised Paradise, a well watered garden, as the New Jerusalem on Earth.
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    We are rewarded only once, at Christ appearing. Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Christ is not ruling over the nations of the earth yet. That will happen at the 7th trumpet which is still future. I provided scripture and reasonable explanations. I also provided various commentaries. I never expected you to believe any of it. The point was, there is truth in the word, some...
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    There are only 2. The first when Christ returns on the last day. The second at the GWTJ. How many times are we rewarded when Christ comes?
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I went back and left an edit to it. I don't know if you saw that.
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    The harlot rides the beast and controls it. Or she thinks she does. It's not till the beast devours her that she is ruined. Does that make them both the same? Is a rider and a horse the same entity while they are together or does the rider control the horse? If the horse get's angry and kills it...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    @David in NJ Jesus did not use a Pre-TB rapture depiction with Noah. Let's look at Christ words. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I don't see it that way because the 10 horns on the beast of the sea burn Babylon with fire. That makes the beast and false prophet separate from her. Rev 17:16 True Babylon is fallen in Rev 14 before the mark is introduced. Notice in Rev 19, it is fallen even before the 7th trumpet when...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    A) True B) True C) I understand your point here, but I see their vengeance fulfilled when Babylon is destroyed. I can explain further if needed. Some verses: Jeremiah 51:6, Rev 18:20-21 (show Babylon's destruction answers the 5th seal martyrs prayer), Jeremiah 51:25, Jeremiah 61:63-64 I see...