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The "thief argument" against the necessity of water baptism has never been a valid Bible argument for it fails due to assumptions and impossibilities: --it is ASSUMED the thief was NEVER baptized even though no verse specifically states the their was never baptized. From what the Bible states...

What took place in Acts 19 is not baptism with the HS nor is it called baptism with the HS. Baptism with the HS was only done by the Lord (Matt 3:11) not by any man. No man today therefore cannot baptize another with baptism with the HS therefore this baptism is not the one bptism of Eph 4 for...

Jn 6:45 is how drawing was done in the first century as it is done today. Again, Acts 8 the Spirit sent for Phillip to 'guide' to teach the eunuch where the eunuch was "taught", he "heard" and "learned" and he came to Christ when he obeyed Christ by being water baptized. The same today in...

Nowhere ever did Paul eliminate obedience from becoming saved, Rom 6:16-18 Paul required obedience to God in becoming saved but did not require works of merit (Eph 2:9) or works of the OT law (Rom 4:5) to becoming saved. Faith is DEAD apart from obedience to God and that is why there is not a...

Nothing in the context says Joel's prophecy would last till Christ returns but all was fulfilled by Christ to being to an end of the OT law and prophets else all the OT law is still in effect today with is animal sacrifices, purification, etc (Mt 5:18). Therefore water baptism administered by...

Acts 2 with the Apostles and Acts 10 with the Gentiles are the only 2 places in the Bible where the Lord baptized men with the HS. In Acts 1:1-8 Jesus was speaking with His Apostles promising them alone baptism with the HS for only the Apostles were promised the Comforter that would by...

You posted: "All believers obey the gospel by daily dying with Christ and being buried with him and rising with him to walk in the Spirit in the newness of life..." Yet 2 Thess 1:8 is NOT speaking about believers but speaks about LOST UNBELIEVERS who are lost and the REASON they are lost for...

The Bible teaches God draws men but not in some mysterious, unknown miraculous way apart from the word of God. For Jn 6:45 shows HOW God draws; "It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto...

My point is beliff is a work God gave to man to do contrary to those who think man is saved doing nothing, that is, saved by faith only.

Joel's prophecy had to do with baptism with the HS, which was fulfilled. --Apostles laying hands upon another is not in the Bible called baptism with the HS, --only the Lord would baptize with the HS (Mt 3:11) hence no man can administer baptism with the HS for the great commission has men...

Baptism with the HS occurs just 2 times in the NT, with the Apostles in Acts 2 and Gentiles Acts 10 fulfilling Joel's prophecy. This baptism had NOTHING to do with the personal salvation of the Jews or Gentiles. Instead it is the water baptism of the great commission that saves, that is...

2 Thess 1:8 says those who OBEY NOT will be in flaiming fire which makes OBEDIENCE necessary to being saved, NOT faith only. One must OBEY the gospel of Christ according to this verse to be saved/not be in flaming fire. Water baptism has been commanded so it can be obeyed, baptism with the HS...

Acts 2 the Apostles were baptized with the HS and Peter ties it directly with Joel's prophecy..."this (apostles baptized with the HS) is that (Joel's prophecy)". Joel prophesied Gods' Spirit would be poured out upon ALL FLESH. All flesh does not mean every single person universally but they...

Paul water baptized some Corinthians himself, 1 Cor 1:14,16 they were not baptized by the HS. Jn 3:5 ----------- Spirit ++++++++++ water >>>>>>>>>>>> in the kingdom 1 Cor 12:13------Spirit ++++++++++ baptized >>>>>>>>>>>. in the body Since there is but one way to be saved/born again, then...

When it comes to salvation, God's grace has ALWAYS been conditional upon man's obedience. This is why there is not a single verse that teaches "doing nothing" saves. Not a single example of disobedient, rebellious, reprobates who uncnditionally recevie grace. Grace is receoived by only those...

Jn 6:27-29 does NOT refer to a work God does but is speaking of a work, the work of believing, that God has given MAN to do. In this context, Jesus gave those people the work of believing for them to do. "Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto...

No, The Corinthians were divided over who had baptized them in chapter 1. And now in the context of 1 Corinthians chapter 12, the Corinthians were dividing themselves over the various miraculous gifts they received from the Spirit and some were claiming some gifts were superior to other...

---Rom 6:3-7 is talking about water baptism where one is "buried" in a watery grave, then "raised up from" that water grave to walk in newness of life. --as I posted earlier from 2 Thess 2:8 one must OBEY to not be in flaming fire eliminating the idea that faith only can save. One must "obey...

This is not baptism with the HS. --baptism with the HS was a prophecy of Joel that was fulfilled, ended, ceased some 2000 years ago --those Corinthians were water baptized, the one baptism of Eph 4 for Paul water baptized some himself, 1 Cor 1:14,16 --the baptism of the great commission was...

You admit that the one baptism of Eph 4:5 is water baptism, therefore that eliminates all other types of baptism including baptism with the HS. Yet you then AMAZINGLY try to argue "Paul is also not talking in absolutes in Ephesians 4:5. He is not saying that there are not other baptisms" If...