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    The Atonement misnomer of Sufficient for all, efficient for some

    It means precisely that He desires all to be saved without exception. Rom 5:18 says it clearly, while we were sinners Christ died for us. That's all men as far as I have ever understood. All but Christ have sinned. Also II Pet 3:9. His universal defeat of death and sin, makes it possible for...
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    The Atonement misnomer of Sufficient for all, efficient for some

    Yes, but you missed the whole purpose of why Christ came, was needed because man could not do what Christ accomplished. He didn't just love this world, He reconciled it to God. Without Christ redeeming work, the salvation of individuals through faith would be in vain. Read carefully this text...
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    The Atonement misnomer of Sufficient for all, efficient for some

    First, I'm not the one using the word "all". In the citations, all means all expressly every single human being who ever will live on this earth. Paul is precisely saying He died for every human, He reconciled the world Col 1:20, II Cor 5:18-19. He tasted death for all men, Heb 2:9, as well as...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    more gibberish. nothing close to an explanation of your view. I'm not the one resisting Truth. Explain just how this works theologically. You have yet to address the texts cited, I wonder why? You have not explained how believers can sin when God controls man's will. Explain the Incarnation...
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    Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?

    You are correct that a promise is given for keeping His command. The command is to believers, but you don't hold the view that mankind has a will that is free, independent from that of God's will. So, by your view, God is giving Himself a command to seek His own kingdom. You need to explain just...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    You keep repeating this bland statement which says nothing. You cannot, theologically even explain just how this might be accomplished. Your saying so says nothing. You never address the texts I cite. You may disagree but you can never explain why you might disagree. Here are actually true...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Did you read the whole of Rom 6. the baptism chapter Baptism may be a ritual but it has salvic consequences. It is the spiritual death of our spiritual nature, and being raised from that water is a spiritual resurrection by which we put on Christ. This is the beginning of the new birth, it is...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    How is it that you believe Christ accomplished God's will through the atonement, yet you limit His work only for believers. As I stated, Paul clearly says to those who hold your view of a limited atonement, it is all in vain, UNLESS CHRIST IS RISEN AND THE DEAD ARE RISEN. Theologically, you...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    More bland statements that do not address the issue. Why do you change the meaning of ALL MEN, OR THE WORLD, to only meaning some? You will not find a text in scripture that states Christ cancelled ones sins by His atonement. His atonement makes forgiveness possible. Unless one confesses his...
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    The Atonement misnomer of Sufficient for all, efficient for some

    Why do you feel the need to insert (forgave us all our sins.). If is does then you also believe Christ was a sinner, since it states we were raised with Christ. This "life" is referring to Christ's resurrection by which He overcame death and why all men will be raised in the last day because...
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    The Atonement misnomer of Sufficient for all, efficient for some

    I don't disagree with most of what you state, however you don't even mention the primary purpose of His Atonement. You cite I Cor 15:17 but you fail to include that Christ died for all men, If the dead are not raised then Christ is not risen and if Christ is not risen then our faith is in vain...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    thanks for the texts that support what scripture actually says. Christ died for all men. because all men were dead. I John 2:2, Heb 2:9, I Cor 15:53, all those dead will be raised incorruptible and immortal. Now, those that live should live unto God. In other words, He desires that all men...
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    Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?

    I don't know how this supports your view either. What is state is a text, but no place does it say hat the Holy Spirit forces man to do anything. This is why it is such an apostasy when a believer rejects the working of the Holy Spirit. Your view does not allow man to reject the Holy Spirit...
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    Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?

    Let's assume you are correct? My question is who goes to hell? Your statement just made every single Jew and Gentile saved and going to heaven because God granted repentance to both in the text. Maybe I should ask what is your definition of Jew and Gentile? Clearly you cherry pick vs that...
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    Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?

    Yes, I agree Jesus chose his disciples. The whole context is very narrow. NEVER does it say, imply that persons were selected to salvation. It is your explanation of this context that is a theory. The verses are explaining the reason God redeemed the world. Not just to overcome the fall, but...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Yes you did, As well as you cannot address the texts. Now we know.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    So, you have no response. This response shows you cannot refute the scripture cited. If you are correct why can you not produce the evidence that I am incorrect? Respond to the texts given. Show that I am incorrect.
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    Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?

    Here is another negative statement showing that you really don't know what you are saying. "But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you" (Matthew 6:31-33)." You are being directed to SEEK his kingdom and His righteousness. Why would God direct...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Quite the opposite. In denying the resurrection of the dead through Christ's redemptive work makes your faith in vain, because man will never be raised from the dead. There will be no judgement, There cannot even be a new heaven and earth which happens because He reconciled the world to God...
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    Imputed Righteousness.

    Never said you did, You simply misapplied the application. Christ's work does impute Christ's righteousness to mankind. You fail to engage with the texts I supplied because, either you do not understand them or you do, but they deny what your theory needs them to say. Christ was in this...