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    Global warming

    Climate Change: It is the greatest hoax ever plotted against people in this world. It has been around since the 1960's but the UN got serious about it in 1980. In the 70"s they got hung up on global cooling. The world is heading for a new ice age. Their scare came in 1980 when they learning...
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    Rest in God's Salvation

    Wow, so offensive. Here are your two negative statements. #1 SAINT..... = Learn to hear them, and protect yourself from them., as these DARK LIGHTS will break your faith if you dont pay attention to what they are teaching you. And once they have broken your faith, your discipleship is RUINED"...
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    Rest in God's Salvation

    Interesting! Within your post you make to negative statements relative to your view. Seems you don't really believe what you are saying. Just saying. I'll let you read and think about it before I show you the two statements. Interesting! You made two negative statements in your post that is...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Quite the opposite, that was the whole purpose of Christ's redemptive work To restore mankind back to life. That mortal will take on immortality. I Cor 15:52-53. Man had the capacity to become mortal. But Adam sinned without being mortal. His sin was condemned and he became mortal. We sin...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Applicable definition of mortal - the ability to die physically or subject to death, as in human being. There was no such thing as mortal in existence. God's statement that if Adam ate of the Tree of Good and Evil he would die. That was physical death. Dust to dust, I don't know what a sin...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    You said: Christ's atonement was not designed to provide eternal existence for unbelievers--that was already a given from the creation." I don't disagree with your explanation of how a believer uses the atonement for sin, We have never disagreed on that point. However you ONLY speak of ONE...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    All you are stating is the life of a believer. But that life is not even possible except that Christ redeemed the world, defeated death and sin. Your last sentence is crucial. All men were created to an eternal existence. Not just unbelievers. Why would Christ, through the work of the Holy...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    You said: " I'm not making an "amazing statement." I'm stating what the Scriptures state, namely that Sin has caused and continues to cause all men to be subject to mortality, or death. We already have a Sin Nature, and thus are mortal and subject to death. But we continue to sin, having that...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    You said: " I'm not making an "amazing statement." I'm stating what the Scriptures state, namely that Sin has caused and continues to cause all men to be subject to mortality, or death. We already have a Sin Nature, and thus are mortal and subject to death. But we continue to sin, having that...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Where have I ever stated that Christ's death doesn't save? You have provided no text(s) that stated that healed means conversion. Even a dictionary as a christian meaning does not define conversion as being healed. I explained what the Bible teaches and it clearly states that Christ in His...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Your reading comprehension is not good. I actually stated that Christ saved man twice. First by His resurrection from mortal, physical death and then believers will be saved from the second death which is a spiritual death, not a mortal death. The first resurrection for the believer is baptism...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I just have to agree to disagree. You have some different views of who Christ is and what He accomplished. I do have some questions though based on your view. Do you believe man was created mortal? I ask this because your view constantly separates different kinds of men, believers and...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    You have a very disconnected explanation. You change the meaning of words to fit some prescribed view that is not present. You want all dead to only mean some dead. Your view leaves Christ not able to save to the utmost all that have died because of Adam. No place does this context separate...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Let's take it slow and easy so you might understand what scripture is actually saying. I Cor 15 vs13-14, if there is no resurrection of the dead then Christ is not risen. One would need to assume that you must of necessity believe that only some humans have died. But it clearly says all the...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Man was never judged sinners by God. God permitted Satan to condemn man to death. Dust to Dust, Gen 3:19. Heb 2:14-16. We sin because we are dead, fallen. Rom 5:12-19. The context is all about physical death as the result of the condemnation through Adam for his sin. I Cor 15:54-56 explains...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    You are really confused. I have said nothing in support of universalism. You are confused about scriptures teaching on the work of Christ. You conflate Christ's work and man's response to God's call to believe, repent and be saved. I'll keep it simple for you. Just take I Cor 15, 12-22. How do...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    This is where you are confused as to what scripture is teaching regarding Christ's work, which is wholly done by Christ and is effected on not just all men but the world, Mankind gets saved from death which is why and how we can even have a resurrection of the dead. God will raise all men in...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    BTW the word healed, the greek word iaomai : You are correct, but your application does not apply to believers but to all men. You are dwelling on ONLY the secondary work of Christ on the Cross, that is the shedding of blood for the purpose forgiveness of sins. If Christ did not rise from...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    There is no predestination in any of the comments I made. Do you believe that some men do not sin. That some men have not fallen as did Adam. If you actually believe what scripture states, then ALL MEN are fallen. All men were condemned to death through the curse upon Adam. If Christ is going...