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The whole purpose of the Holy Spirit working in this world is to bring all men to repentance. He desires that all repent. But the actual act of believing is NOT done by God. It is done by each person. It is accepting His offer of salvation through faith. If God does it, man is not the active...

You are not using context to support your definitions. Redemption has nothing to do with believers in particular. Christ bought everything,. That is what Col 1:17-20 is stating emphatically. II Cor 5:18-19 is also making the same claim. The whole of I Cor 15: 12 -53, which is known as the...

You have a remarkable way to change words so it says what you want it to say, not what scripture is actually saying. Bringing to God is NOT conversion. Conversion is not even done by God. God calls all men to repentance II Pet 3:9, Man must choose to accept or decline that call. When one...

What is your definition of "redeemed"? There are many applications but the context always determines its meaning. Christ redeemed the world, not just believers. He made the world right. He did something man could not do, overcome death. There would be no "new heaven and new earth, there...

I Pet 3:18 Has nothing to do with God converting individuals. What it says is Christ died for the just and the unjust. That He might bring us to God. The US in that sentence is referring to the just and the unjust. I Pet 4:2 says that we should live to the will of God. Nothing says that God is...

the salvation through faith was made available. But salvation through faith would accomplish nothing if Christ had not first defeated death. Christ redeemed the whole world. Everything He created, He redeemed. The world fell along with Adam. Col 1:15-20 defines clearly what Christ accomplished...

Christ's death does not covert a single person. His death gave life, Immortality to the world. That is why scripture speaks of a resurrection of the dead. There will be a resurrection in the last day and all men will be raised to face judgement. Conversion is a choice a person makes through...

Most of what you interpret is misconstrued from the texts. Man was created with a free will. A will that is independent from God. If otherwise, God becomes the initiator of Adam's sin. Christ came to reverse the condemnation of man. He gave all men life. Not a single human being will be...

I'm not sure just what you are refuting, or at least I am assuming you are trying to refute what I stated. I agree fully with the citations given. Although I'm not sure just what you mean by your statement.

The word "salvation is used in context because it means different things in scripture. If you mean did Christ through His humanity, death and resurrection save, redeem, all those who are human beings from death, then the answer is Yes. If you mean salvation through faith, then No. The texts...

Most of this thread to date has been about ONLY ONE aspect of Christ's atonement. You have touched on the primary one. Both creeds, Nicene/Apostles, make two very clear statements at the end. The forgiveness of sins, AND the resurrection from the dead. This sums up what happened in the Garden...

Understanding our human condition is difficult. We are fallen, sinful creatures who tend to lean towards any sin. It is very difficult to live struggling against our fallenness. All of Christianity, is an attempt to live a Christ-like life. So, to say we have no proclivity to anything or even...