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    What is Dualistic Conditional Immortality?

    Side Note: Now, I do believe that unfaithful believers are cast into a place called “outer darkness” (where they are tormented at times). Like the place of hell (or the place of torments), this kind of place exists only until the end of the Millennium (Which is still yet future). Then the one...
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    What is Dualistic Conditional Immortality?

    Your welcome. May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you.
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    What is Dualistic Conditional Immortality?

    Introduction: I believe in “Dualistic Conditional Immortality,” and not “Traditional Conditional Immortality.” I used to believe in “Eternal Torment” (i.e. Eternal Conscious Torment) and even defended it at one time, but I have come to find this belief to be both unbiblical and immoral...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I am aware of your proof texts. You are referring to a verse on the Provisional Atonement. Salvation is conditional when a person reaches the age of accountability. Before that point in time, if a baby or really young child dies, they would go to God’s Kingdom. But there are those whose...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I don’t believe in ECT. I believe in Dualistic Conditional Immortality.
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    God sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. But again… the end goal is the same. That would not really deter me if I knew I would eventually make it into Heaven. What is a deterrent is knowing I would be destroyed and missing out on Heaven (Along with punishment or pain). It’s a...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Sorry, I don’t debate or discuss to change the minds of Univeralists anymore than I would a liberal. No offense, but I believe they are too far down the rabbit hole to pull out. Only prayer can help - IMHO.
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Generally the two major positions is ECT or Conditional Immortality. I generally cannot take anyone seriously who believes this way. It is a gross twisting of too many Scriptures to justify such a belief. If such a belief was true, then I would not bother to live for God or the Lord. Yes, I...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    So are you that this chastening is some kind of purgatory?
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    In the occurences of “weeping and gnashing“ (5 occurences) in the King James Bible, it appears 4 of those times to be a place of outer darkness where unfaithful believers go. I believe this is a different place than hell (Whereby both co-exist) today. Wicked unbelievers will go to hell, and...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    You said, I quote: “Most Christians, however, have been brainwashed with ECT”
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I believe there was always a faithful line of saints throughout history and I don’t believe the Catholic church qualifies.
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I am not KJV Only. I do use Modern Translations, and believe they are intergral to our faith. Granted, that said, I do believe the KJB is the perfect Word of God. It simply uses archaic language that we are not familar with (Whereby we sometimes try and wrongfully enforce our Modern...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I take a different interpretation. I see it as eternal, but the word, ”punishment” is referring to “the results of punishment.” Although the two words appear to be similar, aiōn (G165) would be referring to an age and not aiōnios (G166). Check out this article here...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Most of your Modern bibles are influenced by the Catholic Church. The King James Bible translators had used Erasmus work but he was saved by Luther and Erasmus was looking to reform the church from within instead of from without. Granted, that was a mistake, but Erasmus was not looked upon...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    There are two lines of Bible manuscripts in history. You have the Catholic line of manuscripts (Which is where all the Modern bibles come from primarily). Then you have the line of Bible manuscripts that the Catholics had sought to destroy (along with killing those who copied them). Modern...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Ah, so you believe in Conditional Immortality. Interesting. I believe in Dualistic Conditional Immortality. It is similar to Traditional Conditional Immortality in that the Lake of Fire will destroy or erase the wicked from existence. The only difference is that Dualistic Conditional...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I am just saying that your method of study has to be replicatable that leaves no room for any error or mistake. When we talk about the original languages we get into the manuscript witnesses and not even all of the manuscripts say the exact same thing precisely. So not all Hebrew manuscripts...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Actually, Modern Translations teach false doctrines (See here, and here). So you have things reversed. Modern bibles are actually based upon the Nestle & Aland (Which is supervised by the Vatican). Proof? It says so right in the 27th edition. See here. Were some Modern bibles (like the...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Even ECT proponents will not admit that God is a sadist. That is extreme. I mean, look. I used to believe in ECT and I even tried to defend it like you guys. But it is a hollow defense or pursuit. You cannot explain how God is into fair justice if you believe in ECT. Yet, I already...